| richard barbrook on 9 Aug 2000 02:49:05 -0000 |
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| [Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> Interview with Peter Lunenfeld |
Hiya, Just to clear up a misunderstanding: >When Richard Barbrook and >Andy Cameron wrote "The Californian Ideology," >for some of us who were working here, the tone of the >article rankled: "So far, the Californians have proved to be better at >making virtual machines than social analyses." This is a typical European >attitude ‚ the New World makes, the Old World thinks. This is *not* what the sentence means. What it really says is that the New World makes good things and thinks lazy thoughts. Funnily enough, 'The Californian Ideology' was primarily inspired by our annoyance at the way that the Old World thinks about the Net whatever the New World thinks. Look at the uncritical reception given over here to 'Wired' in '95 - and to Manuel Castells today... Later, Richard ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Richard Barbrook Hypermedia Research Centre School of Communications and Creative Industries University of Westminster Watford Road Northwick Park HARROW HA1 3TP <www.hrc.wmin.ac.uk> +44 (0)20 7911 5000 x 4590 ------------------------------------------------------------------- "While there is irony, we are still living in the prehistoric age. And we are not out of it yet..." - Henri Lefebvre ------------------------------------------------------------------- If you would like to keep in touch with what is happening at the HRC, you can subscribe to our Friends mailing list on: http://ma.hrc.wmin.ac.uk/lists.friends.db _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold