Carl Guderian on 27 Mar 2001 06:34:13 -0000 |
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[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> slashdot chooses its battle and complies to scientology claims |
I think the *real* test would be what Slashdot did if the clams were to demand the identity of the poster. If the poster's anonymizer wasn't up to snuff, then Xenu help him/her. And if Slashdot delivered up the poster, then all Xenu's legions of body thetans couldn't save Slashdot's reputation. Carl --- Drazen Pantic <drazen@opennet.org> wrote: > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/03/16/1256226&mode=thread > > < > Last Saturday a comment was posted here by an > anonymous reader that > contained text that was copyrighted by the Church of > Scientology. They > have since followed the DMCA and demanded that we > remove the comment. > While Slashdot is an open forum and we encourage > free discussion and > sharing of ideas, our lawyers have advised us that, > considering all > the details of this case, the comment should come > down. Read on to > understand what this means. > ... > > We need to choose our battles and this isn't one we > want to have. We > want Slashdot to be a forum where you can say what's > in your heart, > but we simply can't defend an anonymous poster who > violates copyright > law. Keep that in mind when you post in both this > discussion, and in > others in the future. Post your ideas. Post your > thoughts. And most of > all, post your links. We need to play by the rules > or it's game over. > > ... > > > > Comment: > > This might be a defining moment for Slashdot, > proclaimed leader of > so-called Open Source journalism. The model proved > itself as effective as > a model for collective journalistic writing and > editorial work. The key > remaining point, we did not have chance to test > until now, is how much > Slashdot management and Slashdot as collective do > really care about basic > principles of openness and freedom of expression - > they speak so much of. > > The previous paragraph, starting with "We need to > choose our battles." is > a sad example of selective tolerance and weak > excuse. The message is > basically that Slashdot will mind its own business, > and propagate news and > rights of Open Source community, primarily against > Microsoft and similar > corporations. But, when issues shift towards more > fundamental issues of > freedom of expression, the management will back > off... > > Finally, the "an anonymous poster who violates > copyright law" is basically > the typical poster of Slashdot, and many other posts > could fall into that > category. But, the entities that were subject of > those posts were not as > scary as Scientology is, so Slashdot has decided > many times to go along > with smaller or bigger violations. Now, that they > faced the strong > response from an entity they do not understand and > are afraid of, CmdrTaco > and friends decided that it would be most opportune > for them to remove the > post and try to forget about it... > > The comments on the page from Slashdot readers is > pretty strong. Some > subjects mention "the end of Slashdot" and sever > disappointment. If it > stays like this, it really might be the beginning of > decline of > Slashdot... > > Drazen > > > > > > > > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use > without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net > criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural > politics of the nets > # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info > nettime-l" in the msg body > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: > nettime@bbs.thing.net > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold