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[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> Questioning the net
riou on Fri, 6 Jul 2001 23:33:16 +0200 (CEST)


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[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> Questioning the net


dear nettimers,

just wanted to reply to mez's diagnosis of the current state of the net:

> ...its strange - & i mite b slightly addled about this - but the further we
> progress along a new media ad][d][.here.nce route, the greater ][seems][
> the creative tendency to crawl backwards in2 the canon cave whilst throwing
> tentative angular projections in2 the progressive ether...

well, I think that you've identified the ultimate net dichotomy.  On the one 
hand, there are those who are trying to situate the net within established 
intellectual paradigms, most notably in the fields of media theory, cultural 
theory, aesthetics, and politics.  If this is what you mean by the "canon cave" I 
think it's important to point out the necessity of this intellectual space to 
push our understanding of this "new medium" forward.  On the other hand,  this 
"progessive ether," perhaps what you would call the vital part of the web, is the 
testing ground for new ideas.  I think that the two go hand in hand because of 
their radically different objectives and capabilities.  I do agree with you that 
academia hasn't scratched the surface of the net, but I also think that it takes 
time for this to happen.  I certainly don't want net discourse to remain within 
the realm of pop culture forever, because that's not very engaging.

> ...wot i'm trying to communicate is that i'm sensing a type of rigidity in
> the network....that the medium is now somewot stained by corporate gluttony
> N regular seductions back to the tangible, the known.......

Does this surprise you?  This rigidity is caused by the overwhelming commercial 
presence on the net.  An inevitable progression.
>
> ..although i realise that most of the art/literary market/scene haven't
> even began pushing 2wards/grappling with this "new" medium, its seems 2 be
> sliding slowly out of site....with the traditional pathways of recognition,
> segmentation, labelling & individualistic absorption manifest][er][ing...we
> seem 2 be e.turn.ally bound within capitalistic parameters....gender
> segregations....minority occlusions....
>
Freedom only comes into existence when exercised.  For this reason I think that 
its very dangerous to ascribe a politically empowering dimension to the Internet.  
It is, ultimately, only what people make of it.  That said, we cannot omit the 
influence of the world outside the net on the net, since that's exactly what got 
us to the crisis point your talking about.  So there will, of course, be a 
perpetuation of class divisions by virtue of the technology of the net, just as 
there will be a perpetuation of capitalistic paramaters as long as every chain 
store keeps employing their web designers. I wouldn't get too down on it, though, 
because there are plenty of people out there who are using the net for 
interesting, innovative projects.  We just have to deal with all of the other 
crap, too.

Danielle


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