Eryk Salvaggio on Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:04:02 +0100 (CET)


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[Nettime-bold] Re: RHIZOME_RAW: FLTR 1.0 <double-minded version>


Who exactly is the "the "ascii art/ can't really do anything but am terribly
thoughtful" crowd." ?
Here's a dig at what I do and then I'm paraphrased in the next paragraph. Oh
dear!

-e.

Curt Cloninger wrote:

> FLTR 1.0 <double-minded version>
> [10.29/01]
>
> Content:::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>
> {video}
> 1. Spiritualized: Stop Your Crying
> 2. Iconlogic: trikala
> 3. m9ndfukc: punk.protokol.999o
>
> {collab}
> 4. violentnation: familyiiawah
>
> {audio}
> 5. Stereolab: radio mix 1
>
> {interactive}
> 6. Jean-Luc Lamarque: Pianographique
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> 1.
>
> Spiritualized: Stop Your Crying:
> http://www.spiritualized.com/music.html
>
> This spiritualized video is so happy-making.  It's all mellow and
> slow motion, with orchestral accompaniment.  Then the orchestra
> members smash their instruments, kind of like Art of Noise, but much
> more posh and angsty.  And of course the rock musicians just stand in
> the front stoically, amidst the chaos.  Maybe they play this video on
> MTV all the time.  How should I know?  Anyway, what would it matter?
> Groovy is as groovy does.
>
> I got this same Spiritualized CD and also Portishead's Live in NYC
> this week.  That's two rock CD's with orchestral accompaniment.
> Neither surpass Neil Young's _Harvest_, but then what does?
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> {advert}
>
> Oh marylou won't you tell me what to do
> I got a dollar on the corner and a laser in my shoe
> If I don't get an answer gonna split myself in two
>
> double-minded #1:
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0679743464/lab404webcreatio
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> 2.
>
> Iconlogic: trikala
> http://www.iconologic.com/trikala/1.php
>
> This is a great example of the weird new hybrid genre of Flash and
> film.  This particular movie is about a guy who is having a dream,
> then he wakes up and reads a book that turns into these
> Lichtenstein-looking vectors.  "Trikala" is similar in mood and
> technique to this earlier piece by the World Domination Design Group
> <http://anamorph.wddg.com/>  Except "trikala" is not as dark, which
> makes it even more creepy.  View these movies at their highest
> resolutions if you can.  It's all about resolution, detail, and
> execution, so the fidelity does make a difference.  Graphic design
> demo/promo work as art.  Did I say "art"?  It would appear so now,
> wouldn't it?
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> {advert}
>
> six of one, half dozen of the other.
>
> double-minded #2:
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005NKCQ/lab404webcreatio
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> 3.
>
> m9ndfukc: punk.protokol.999o
> http://www.m9ndfukc.org/data/filmz/nato.0%2B55.msk.html
>
> This is old NN stuff, and 11.4 M at that.  If you can't take the
> heat, get out of the fast lane.  What's not to respect?  So many
> people talk so much theory and cyber-cyborg crap.  NN talks that
> stuff too, but then she (as in "the ship of state" she) delivers.  It
> could have been optimized to be less than 11.4 M, but then that's yet
> another thing punk about it.  It was probably just saved straight
> from max/nato in quicktime format and called into an html page.
> Compare it to "trikala" above.  If "trikala" represents a _Fifth
> Element_ future of beautiful, chromium-sheen distortion; this piece
> is like a _Sid and Nancy_ future of fuzz, crackle, puke, and
> overload.  "Trikala" is Radiohead's _Kid A_, "punk.protokol.999o" is
> The Velvet Underground's _White Light / White Heat_.
>
> I realize NN fancies the art deco stylings of _Metropolis_, and maybe
> that's an underlying persona guide or something.  But the output is
> pure Lou Reed.  "A drug hit Sally inside" -- Looped on 11
> <http://www.spinaltap.com/video/11_sm.mov>.
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> {advert}
>
> A man of my mind can do anything.
>
> double-minded #3:
> http://steelydan.com/lyrroyalscam.html#track3
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> 4.
>
> violentnation: familyiiawah
> http://www.violentnation.com/collab/
>
> It's just a messed up exquisite corpse collab where you start off
> with a picture, and then the next person tweaks it and passes it on,
> etc.  This one is cool because it's comprised neither of the "graphic
> ds9r/ check my photoshop skillz" crowd, nor the "ascii art/ can't
> really do anything but am terribly thoughtful" crowd.  It's just your
> standard goofy anarchic fun.
>
> The project includes such "notables" as:
> lew baldwin <http://www.redsmoke.com>
> ben benjamin <http://www.superbad.com>
> terbo ted <http://www.sketchzilla.com>
> pud <http://www.fuckedcompany.com>
>
> So far "familyiiawah" has subsumed an "Eye of the Tiger on Easter
> Island as policed by CHIPS" vibe, but it's not over yet.
>
> The project is open, but you've got to somehow convince the guy at
> violentnation that you are worthy to handle such explosive devices
> (cf: <http://www.redmenace.za.net/ladiesweapons/> )  Good luck, and
> may the force be with you.
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> {advert}
>
> Understanding the Web as Media
>
> The outline:
> http://www.lab404.com/media/
>
> The talk:
> http://conferences.devx.com/webbuilder/keynotes.asp
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> 5.
>
> Stereolab: radio mix 1
> http://www.stereolab.co.uk/radio/
>
> "Here for your listening pleasure is a compilation of some songs and
> sounds that we like, hope you like them too."
>
> Streaming net radio mix from the band that somehow convinced an
> entire generation of twenty-something groovers that lounge music was
> def.  Dubbed by Eryk Salvaggio as "the first band to aesthetically
> withstand the blow of the 9/11 attacks" (I'm grossly
> mis-paraphrasing), Stereolab is no mere fad at which to be sneezed.
> Especially since they are now produced by Jim O'Rourke, who is from
> Chicago and collaborates regularly with Sonic Youth, so you know he's
> got to be cool.  Jim's best production work, incidentally, is on
> Edith Frost's _Calling Over Time_
> <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000019QM/lab404webcreatio>,
> just in case you were wondering.
>
> And the new DJ Spooky?  Yeah, the new DJ Spooky.
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> {advert}
>
> Fresh Styles for Web Designers
>
> The book:
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735710740/lab404webcreatio/
>
> The outline:
> http://www.lab404.com/dan/
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> 6.
>
> Jean-Luc Lamarque: Pianographique
> http://www.pianographique.com
>
> Of all the interactive multimedia autogenerative web things, this is
> one of the best.  Like several previously designed web audio engines
> <http://www.amontobin.com>, "Pianographique" is controlled by
> keyboard taps.  Hitting the "d" key might trigger a snare.  Hitting
> the "b" key might start a bass loop.  But the keys not only trigger
> audio, they trigger correspondent video behaviors as well.  Mouse
> clicks and drags further modify the video on some earlier modules.
> "Compulsion" and "Angular Entropy" are the coolest modules.  "Angular
> Entropy" combines house music with the iconographic vector sharding
> of todays rad web ds9rz <http://www.designgraphik.com>.  "Compulsion"
> is jazz sounds wed with groovy 50s and 60s retro-layouts in the style
> of various jazz CD covers.
>
> The only thing that maybe comes close to this kind of multimedia
> interactive control online is http:www.ambientmachines.com  But
> pianographique is much more responsive and explosive.  Amaze your
> friends.  Tease animals.  You won't want to put it down.
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> FLTR is filtered by Curt Cloninger <curt@lab404.com>.
>
> It's pretty much a blatant rip off of RHIZOME DIGEST in form.  Except
> you can't advertise in it, subscribe or unsubscribe to it, submit to
> it, or do anything much about it at all except maybe filter it.  Then
> you'd be filtering something called "filter," which would make you so
> meta.  I envy you.
>
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> my personal work in the {advert} sections.  That way you will be
> forewarned of the evils of self-pimping and possible "commerce."
>
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>
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>
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