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Chocolate. Yes, Netochka chocolate. What,
one wonders did all those women want in
Spring 1998? Why now so reluctant, Angela McRobbie, to entertain my present intervention?
Huh?
See the archives at http://www.aoir.org -
- something is beginning to emerge, become
more clearly defined, appear from the
undercurrents, (as though this were planned, indeed) as Internet in its post-911 crisis
takes on a familiar aspect. I have the feeling
that this emergence will take some time.
The virtual like the imaginary becomes Real.
Reality is produced, as in a newspaper or
on a web page, while the Real produces the
newspaper and the webpage.
[my email accounts for lachlan@london.com <reified subject of technology> and editors@london.com <ethical and moral imaginary> are closed to me. This has
happened before and they are usually
restored. I mention this as I meant to
post a couple of parts of my
slightly revised 'Love is the Law' paper
which I have been working on while
procrastinating over the third line
of the second stranza of Blake's
Jerusalem: do I really have to do this by myself? Exorcise all those spooks all by myself?]
[Air-l] references on gender, age, support & info tech use Joan Korenman
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[Air-l] Indymedia, Firenze, Torino, Bologna under attack, post Genoa Lachlan Brown
[Air-l] "Call for Book Chapters" - best papers from ITiRA2002 Conference , 27 - 29 August 2002 Wal Taylor
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[Air-l] name game Barry Wellman
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[Air-l] Request for information on international disabled students research Ken Friedman
[Air-l] Request for information on international disabled stu dents research HUI, Kwok Fai Philip
[Air-l] name game jeremy hunsinger
[Air-l] software for chat files? Sherri Condon
[Air-l] Looking for information and help Hal
[Air-l] software for chat files? noci
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[Air-l] Party on, dude! Ken Friedman
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[Air-l] Chill. Lachlan Brown
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[Air-l] Credit Card Fraud On The Internet! Cem Timurkan
[Air-l] Credit Card Fraud Lachlan Brown
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[Air-l] Chocolate Lachlan Brown
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[Air-l] digital library grants Nancy Baym
[Air-l] Re: references on gender, age, support & info tech use Caroline Haythornthwaite
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[Air-l] Carnivore, Omnivore, Amerivore, Va Lachlan Brown
[Air-l] Dragonnet Lachlan Brown
Lachlan Brown air-l@aoir.org
Wed, 20 Feb 2002 12:03:24 -0500
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http://italy.indymedia.org
Airheads,
Your assistance is required to denounce
activities by the Italian Police against
independent media organisation in Italy.
Lachlan
>Tiziana,
>
> Sometimes it is wise to sing to the playing
>of the piano, sometimes we need the piano wire
>for other purposes.
>
> Lachlan
> thirdnet
> http://...- ...-
>
Barry Wellman air-l@aoir.org
Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:13:00 -0500
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Dear AOIR folks,
I need advice.
Someone e-mailed me claiming to have just found that he too
is named Barry Wellman and is Jewish, having been adopted into a Raleigh
NC Christian family at a young age. He's anxious to make contact with us
Wellman's (of whom I am the last of my particular lineage).
He gave me a strange sounding AOL return address.
I checked on his name and there is someone at that address at Raleigh. In
what Mapquest suggests is a residential neighborhood (lots of suburban
crescents).
A web search reveals nobody by that name in Raleigh.
Is this a well-known scam or spam-finder.
I do have a phone number to call -- thru a Yahoo finder service -- but if
someone is playing a hoax on the person whose phone number it is, I don't
want to deluge him. (What is the call-display blocking command, btw?)
Meanwhile, I get at least one offer a day to help someone high up in
Nigeria, Liberia, Congo, Sierra Leone, or Zimbabwe to do a scam and at the
same time make me rich. Today, it was Laurent Kabila's second wife. I am
thinking of throwing a cyber-party and inviting all these generous
people;-)
And so it goes.
Barry
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wellman@chass.utoronto.ca http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman
Centre for Urban & Community Studies University of Toronto
455 Spadina Avenue Toronto Canada M5S 2G8 fax:+1-416-978-7162
Ken Friedman air-l@aoir.org
Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:21:21 +0100
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Whoa!
That righteous dude Barry Wellman has
come up with the dream theme of the
decade.
I, too, have been avalanched by letters
from friends, cronies, high government
colleagues, exiled colleagues, wives,
nephews, and sons of the present or
former dictators of Nigeria, Liberia,
Congo, and Sierra Leone. So far, I've
heard nothing from Zimbabwe, but I'm
alert.
All these people have one hundred million
dollars or so in a Swiss bank, a locked
box, a safe place, a bookshelf, or a desk
drawer at the Centre for Urban and
Community Studies.
They'll give me 25% for helping them
invest it. Is this an opportunity or what?
The idea of a party is brilliant. Let's get
them all together. It'll be a cross between
the WEF, the WWF, and a TupperWare
Party.
I'll be there, dude.
When I arrive, I'll just tell them I'm
Barry Wellman. Unless he's already there,
along with that other guy who has the
same name.
Ken Friedman
Economist, Philosopher, and Party Animal
Lachlan Brown air-l@aoir.org
Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:49:29 -0500
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Hmmm... end this thread and move along.
Legally fraught to snoop people,
a number of laws, of Canada, of Ontario,
of the USA and of North Carolina come into
play here. Contractual matters re: Faculty
of the University of Toronto and so on. Tricky.
More come into play when you discuss a
private investigation in a public place,
ie this list with 1000+ people, most of
whom you do not know.
Both your namesake, Barry Wellman of
North Carolina, and Amercia Online are
impacted by this discussion. Unwise to
continue it unless you are raising concerns
concerning a breach to your own rights.
In this case you have a right to make as
much of a fuss as you like, as long as it
does not impact the rights of others.
Ethically fraught - sets a very bad example
to students.
Morally? What are you doing snooping via
MapQuest the 'suburban crescents' of Raleigh North Carolina?
One is required to assume goodwill
in others and to show goodwill toward
others in the social contract, and
I do not see why the mediation of numerous
communication and information technologies,
their institutions public and private, and commercial
manifestations provide reason to
dump the patient work of centuries.
Give the chap a call. Probably a namesake
interested in his namesake. Bother us no
longer with paranoia.
Carry on, Net Lab.
Bob Briggs, keep your strange-sounding AOL
e-mail address to yourself, please.
Lachlan Brown
Cultural Studies
Goldsmiths College
In a message dated 2/20/2002 8:25:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
wellman@chass.utoronto.ca writes:
> I checked on his name and there is someone at that address at Raleigh. In
> what Mapquest suggests is a residential neighborhood (lots of suburban
> crescents).
>
> A web search reveals nobody by that name in Raleigh.
>
> Is this a well-known scam or spam-finder.
It is not necessarily a scam; if it is, I've surely not heard of it. But I'd
also be rather cautious regarding personal mail from a complete stranger
until identity and motives can be sorted out better. Many well-intentioned
folks use the Internet for bona fide genealogical research, whether at a
professional or amateur level. Some try to get in touch with people who
might be related, not only to fill in branches of family trees but also
simply to make friendly connections.
Cheers,
Bob Briggs (with a strange-sounding AOL e-mail address)
Westport, MA
Lachlan Brown air-l@aoir.org
Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:57:38 -0500
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Sobriety, please, Ken Friedman
Economist, Philosopher, and Party Animal
Whatever you do in your liesure time is
of no interest whatsoever to this forum
of scholarly debate.
I believe we were planning to muster for
Maastricht, and thereafter Trier in the
autumn to contest the American Succession
to Global Hegemony?
Lachlan Brown
Cultural Studies
Goldsmiths College
>Whoa!
That righteous dude Barry Wellman has
come up with the dream theme of the
decade.
I, too, have been avalanched by letters
from friends, cronies, high government
colleagues, exiled colleagues, wives,
nephews, and sons of the present or
former dictators of Nigeria, Liberia,
Congo, and Sierra Leone. So far, I've
heard nothing from Zimbabwe, but I'm
alert.
All these people have one hundred million
dollars or so in a Swiss bank, a locked
box, a safe place, a bookshelf, or a desk
drawer at the Centre for Urban and
Community Studies.
They'll give me 25% for helping them
invest it. Is this an opportunity or what?
The idea of a party is brilliant. Let's get
them all together. It'll be a cross between
the WEF, the WWF, and a TupperWare
Party.
I'll be there, dude.
When I arrive, I'll just tell them I'm
Barry Wellman. Unless he's already there,
along with that other guy who has the
same name.
air-l@aoir.org air-l@aoir.org
Thu, 21 Feb 2002 16:09:59 EST
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In a message dated 2/21/2002 3:57:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lachlan@london.com writes:
> Bob Briggs, keep your strange-sounding AOL
> e-mail address to yourself, please.
>
> Lachlan Brown
>
> Cultural Studies
> Goldsmiths College
Sorry to have offended you Lachlan, but it's rather tough to conceal one's
address. Here's another address that you can use if you like:
rh_briggs@post.harvard.edu
Cheers,
Bob Briggs
Westport, MA
Cem Timurkan air-l@aoir.org
Thu, 21 Feb 2002 16:19:45 -0500
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Hi all! I am recently doing a research about 'Credit Card Fraud On The
Internet'. Assume that I have a Web site and I face with a credit card fraud
situation. Who should I call to solve this problem legally? Thanks in
advance.
Sincerely,
Cem Timurkan
Lachlan Brown air-l@aoir.org
Thu, 21 Feb 2002 16:49:52 -0500
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The Police.
>Hi all! I am recently doing a research about 'Credit Card Fraud On The
Internet'. Assume that I have a Web site and I face with a credit card fraud
situation. Who should I call to solve this problem legally? Thanks in
advance.
Sincerely,
>Cem Timurkan
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Lachlan Brown air-l@aoir.org
Thu, 21 Feb 2002 16:55:02 -0500
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Hmmm,
since you are doing
>research about 'Credit Card Fraud'
and cite a hypothetical instance supposing
you had a 'web page' you should research
how the police go about policing credit card
fraud.
Lachlan
[Air-l] Chocolate
Lachlan Brown air-l@aoir.org
Thu, 21 Feb 2002 17:24:56 -0500
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artclay <artclay@netsurfer.ch>
>no author?
Men aged 12 to 19 consume the most amount of chocolate.
Women aged 30 to 39 are the next largest group of chocolate consumers. [log!k = pouerfl]
For some people, the lure of chocolate can be overwhelming. [log!k = v.pouerfl]
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\ \/ i should like to be a human plant
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i will shed leaves in the shade
\_\ because i like stepping on bugs
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Netochka Nezvanova nezvanova@eusocial.com
http://www.eusocial.com
http://www.ggttctttat.com/!
n r . 5 !!! http://steim.nl/leaves/petalz
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BIBLIOGRAPHY
"Chocolate: Just Say Yes,"
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[Air-l] mea non culpa
Barry Wellman air-l@aoir.org
Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:59:14 -0500
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Hey, I didn't do nothing wrong.
I gave out the fact that the guy has just discovered that he was Born (not
now using) with the same name as me. He's not identifiable as such on the
web or any directory. Is Google-using now a crime? If so I commited
again, by searching on Lachlin's name.
I didn't give out his current name nor his address.
And since when is finding out where someone lives on Mapquest an ethical
or a moral crime? I wanted to find out if there was anyone with that name
in that city. All I said was "suburban crescents," which limits ID to
about 3/4 of the residential parts of that growing city , I'd guess.
And actually I think I do know about 1/3 of the people on
this list.
I will take folks' advice and call the guy, from a non-primary phone and
with *67 call-display blocked disabled.
As there seems to be some interest:
If it's kosher, I will ask my namesake's permission to report back here.
If it ain't kosher, I willprovide some summary info. But it may not be for
a while, as everyone once in a while I gotta do some work, take a trip
(guest lecturing at CMU Wed & Thurs for all those P'burghers online), and
even relax for a while.
I have neither time nor interest to get into a flame war, & won't respond
any mor. But that's my .02. YMMV.
Barry
___________________________________________________________________
Barry Wellman Professor of Sociology NetLab Director
wellman@chass.utoronto.ca http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman
Centre for Urban & Community Studies University of Toronto
455 Spadina Avenue Toronto Canada M5S 2G8 fax:+1-416-978-7162
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Lachlan Brown air-l@aoir.org
Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:04:34 -0500
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I'm a one-man flamewar, Barry, methodologically speaking. Sorry, It's my
way of saying 'hello'. Ask Morley. An
outcome of a seven year cultural
anthropology of Internet, [The Internet
Edda?] a journey through a distinctly familiar/unfamiliar culture, western technoculture and the institutions
it impacted/impacts.
>I will take folks' advice and call the guy, >from a non-primary phone and
>with *67 call-display blocked disabled.
Seems sensible, lol. But let's get beyond
the paranoia bound up in our technologies
and our selves. Some of the language reacting
to my intervention 'erasure', 'redundancy',
'exterminate' seems to be taken from the
Dalek lexicon.
I come in peace.
Lachlan Brown
lachlanbrown@london.com
thirdnet limited -
who.dares.wins
[Air-l] Carnivore, Omnivore, Amerivore, Va
Lachlan Brown air-l@aoir.org
Fri, 22 Feb 2002 14:02:01 -0500
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http://www.epic.org/privacy/carnivore/omnivoreproposal.html
http://www.epic.org/privacy/carnivore/carnivorediagrams.html
http://www.epic.org/privacy/carnivore/purpose.html
http://www.epic.org/privacy/carnivore/army.html
http://www.epic.org/privacy/carnivore/omnivorecloseout2.html
http://www.epic.org/privacy/carnivore/jud_comm.html
http://www.epic.org/privacy/carnivore/deployments.html
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Lachlan Brown air-l@aoir.org
Fri, 22 Feb 2002 14:53:47 -0500
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[for some reason this post did not go through
first time]
The aesthetics of erasure
a personal favourite:
http://www.epic.org/privacy/carnivore/dragonnet.html
Lachlan Brown
http://...-
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