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Lachlan Brown on Fri, 19 Apr 2002 17:22:02 +0200 (CEST)


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> > All
> > >
> > >    I thought I would mail a copy of an email I have just sent to nettime
> and to Proferssors at Goldsmiths College to you for cross reference should
> there be technical difficulties at Nettime or at Goldsmiths College.
> > >
> > >   With great love,
> > >
> > >   Lachlan Brown
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "Lachlan Brown" <lachlan {AT} london.com>
> > > To: d.morley {AT} gold.ac.uk
> > > Cc:  a.mcrobbie {AT} gold.ac.uk,n.rose {AT} gold.ac.uk,l.back {AT} gold.ac.uk,
> c.geraghty {AT} gold.ac.uk
> > > Subject:  Re: An Arrest.
> > > Date:  Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:28:23 -0500
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > nettime thirdnet 2001.4
> > > Dear Dave, Angela, Nik, Christine and Les,
> > >
> > > I mailed the following to Nettime-l
> > > this morning. News of the arrest of the
> > > owner of nnportal.com (non-nude portal)
> > > as well as a discussion by
> > > nn portal webmasters of 'what happened?'
> > > as they regroup on another bulletin board.
> > > It would be helpful if you could circulate this, and also keep tabs on
> Nettime to make sure this issue is not elided.
> > >
> > > I must say that I find it unbelievable
> > > that the 1,000 members of the Association
> > > of Internet Researchers, whom among them
> > > must have 5,000 person-years Internet experience have not dealt with
> this issue.
> > > I note thatI was unsubscribed from AoIR
> > > when it became clear that I was requesting that they deal with the
> issue.
> > >
> > > The details were pieced together from
> > > responses by a wide number of people on several lists. The idea that it
> might be acceptable for professionals 'college men'
> > > to form relationship with children of non-professionals is a terrible
> tragedy.
> > >
> > > I discuss the causes for the inability
> > > of Internet to self-regulate in my PhD which
> > > charts the emergence of Internet in culture
> > > with a focus on WWW (not Usenet) from 1993- present. The research is a
> cultural anthropology and a social geography of
> > > new media, focussing on Internet as a
> > > symptom of broader social and cultural factors. It was undertaken part
> time
> > > within the constraints of work and family
> > > life and very much in the tradition of cultural studies. I expect to
> complete
> > > this, despite a range of family difficulties,
> > > at Goldsmiths College and I also have a book:
> > > Digital Cultures: locations of production, networks of circulation,
> contexts of reception.
> > >
> > > I must say that in no way do I disagree with the culture of
> experimentation, creativity
> > > and criticism on Internet. I disagree with cultures where the rights of
> others, in particular children, are impacted.
> > > I consider this hate media.
> > >
> > > I cannot understand why these issues have
> > > not been dealt with in the now considerable
> > > scholarship in the field. I place my trust
> > > and faith in you, and all at Goldsmiths
> > > College, as well as all in our field of
> > > study, cultural studies that these issues
> > > are not allowed to elide, be obfuscated, or
> > > otherwise lie fallow again.
> > >
> > > I was among the
> > > first to recognise the potential place of
> > > WWW + Internet in culture, and among the
> > > first to publish a web site aimed at encouraging education, information
> and enlightenment, creativity and criticism. I
> > > am, and have been for some time, preparing
> > > a web site called Coalition: 'against hate
> > > online and racism anywhere' which provides
> > > scholarship aimed at large readerships internationally, in the tradition
> of
> > > public service media and educational publishing. It is a copublication
> of
> > > Thirdnet my company and the Centre for
> > > Urban and Community Research at Goldsmiths College.
> > >
> > > I have been in touch with a journalist in London. It might be helpful if
> you could
> > > liaise for me? I have little support here
> > > in Toronto.
> > >
> > > I am merely doing cultural studies as I
> > > was taught and as I have taught. As I understand it the subject is about
> transferring
> > > the best of our cultures to our children and to
> > > future generations.
> > >
> > > Very best,
> > >
> > > Lachlan Brown
> > > V(416) 826 6937
> > > VM(416) 822 1123
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Nettimers,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, on behalf of the 'nameless nobodies'
> > > > to all who responded in one way or another
> > > > to my intervention into bad practice in
> > > > Internet scholarship and the industry.
> > > >
> > > > The owner of nnportal.com has been arrested
> > > > in Denver, bail has been set at $1,000,000.00.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone knows the owner of 'Mplayer teens',
> > > > a Toronto based site, could they please
> > > > contact the Toronto Metropolitan Police or
> > > > the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
> > > >
> > > > Lachlan Brown
> > > > Toronto
> > > >
> > > > doing cultural studies,
> > > > anyone got a problem with that?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I enclose two items:
> > > > 1. The Denver Post article regarding the arrest of the owner of
> NNportal ('non-nude' portal)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2. and the NN webmasters discussing what happened
> > > > on a new bulletin board they have set up to
> > > > replace the old one. google search> 'nntalk'
> > > >
> > > > 1. the Denver Post
> > > >
> > > > $1 million bail for porn suspect
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Girl, mom defend Internet photographer
> > > >
> > > > By Kirk Mitchell
> > > > Denver Post Staff Writer
> > > >
> > > > Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - A judge refused to lower a $1 million bail
> for a man arrested in a kiddie porn case in which thousands of online
> subscribers across the country allegedly paid to watch local teens having
> sex.
> > > >
> > > > A 15-year-old girl who modeled for James Steven Grady speaks on his
> behalf at Arapahoe County Justice Center on Monday.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Arapahoe County District Judge Alex Bencze denied a defense request
> Monday to lower bail to $50,000 for James Steven Grady, 42, citing his
> lengthy criminal history. Grady is being held for investigation of sexual
> exploitation of two girls.
> > > >
> > > > Grady, whose enterprise generated as much as $60,000 in revenue a
> month for the past three years, has been convicted three times in felony
> burglary and theft cases and has spent 10 years in the Colorado Department
> of Corrections. He also has three misdemeanor arrests, Bencze said.
> > > >
> > > > Dozens of Arapahoe County sheriff's deputies and Colorado Bureau of
> Investigation officers raided Grady's business on 4301 S. Federal Blvd.
> Friday.
> > > >
> > > > Sheriff's officers carted away evidence from the studio in two rental
> trucks and two vans. Evidence included computers, photographs and business
> records, Arapahoe County Undersheriff Grayson Robinson said. Probable cause
> to arrest Grady was based on pornographic photographs of two girls, he said.
> > > >
> > > > Eventually, Grady could be charged with as many counts as there are
> illegal photographs of children found among his possessions, Robinson said.
> > > >
> > > > "This is huge," Robinson said. "It is going to take quite a bit of
> time and effort to tie it all together."
> > > >
> > > > A dozen CBI and sheriff's investigators are sorting through the
> voluminous records, he said. Grady had business operations in Nevada, Texas
> and Florida, Robinson said. Authorities in those states have been notified.
> > > >
> > > > A 15-year-old girl and her mother attended Grady's initial appearance
> Monday at the courthouse and defended him.
> > > >
> > > > "In our hearts he's done nothing wrong," the girl said. "It's crazy.
> Jimmy is the most caring guy I ever met."
> > > >
> > > > Robinson said Grady's website did contain legal photographs of teens.
> > > >
> > > > The girl, who aspires to be a model and movie star, said that all but
> a fraction of the girls involved in the Internet business called, "True Teen
> Babes," support Grady.
> > > >
> > > > The Denver girl said she posed for $20 an hour wearing clothes of her
> choosing that included a bikini, shorts and lingerie. She only posed in ways
> she felt comfortable, which was never suggestive, she said.
> > > >
> > > > If girls struck seductive poses, it was their own decision, she said.
> > > >
> > > > "If I'm wrong for letting her go after her dream, I'm sorry," said the
> girl's mother on condition of anonymity. "This is not child pornography."
> > > >
> > > > The woman said she watched all of her daughter's photography shoots
> and her daughter was never asked to pose nude, she said.
> > > >
> > > > Grady "never says, "Can you show a little more,' " the 15-year-old
> girl said.
> > > >
> > > > The girl said she participated in a live webcam program also operated
> by Grady called "True Teen Cams," in which subscribers ask her questions
> while photos are taken of her every eight to 10 seconds. In the rare
> instance when subscribers asked inappropriate questions, they were
> immediately warned that they could lose their privilege to correspond for a
> month, the girl said.
> > > >
> > > > She described the subscribers as mostly college-aged men who are
> polite and very complimentary.
> > > >
> > > > "They're really great guys," the girl said.
> > > >
> > > > Some of the 18-year-old girls would take pictures in which they
> covered their breasts only with their hands, she said.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2.Here's text of the NN webmasters in a new discussion board (the old
> one was closed) talking about what happened and the recovery of
> > > > the 'scene'.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I could've sworn I was at NNTalk earlier this morning, but I went and
> now everything is closed. I read the post "4/8/02" but that doesn't really
> say what happened. I'm not asking for a long detailed report (unless someone
> wants to provide one), just a summary with key details and no vaugeness.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > -----------------
> > > > -Mike
> > > > AIM: mjbrannan | E-Mail: mjbrannan1 {AT} att.net
> > > > Buy my shit.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > > > Posts: 12
> > > >
> > > > htp00
> > > > Administrator
> > > > Re: Can anyone explain exactly what happened?
> > > > Posted: 4/9/02 10:19:22 pm
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > > > Some dude likes shooting underage chicks naked. He gets arrested. All
> of the free sites gain new morals and condemn the things they used to do and
> run away....
> > > >
> > > > Board gets closed, old one opens back up.
> > > >
> > > > Alec
> > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > > Planet Girlco
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > > > Posts: 2259
> > > >
> > > > Crash83
> > > > Uzer
> > > > Re: Can anyone explain exactly what happened?
> > > > Posted: 4/9/02 10:40:34 pm
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > > > Lol!!! Very funny and true.......sad but funny. Great to be back. Old
> Skool Style!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > Posts: 131
> > > >
> > > > MasterBlaster
> > > > loves pepper
> > > > Truth
> > > > Posted: 4/9/02 11:03:55 pm
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > > > Alright...the TRUTH.
> > > >
> > > > All of the nn webmasters were standing in the middle of the road ( I
> don't know why they do this, but they do)
> > > >
> > > > Suddenly this huge SUV came along and ran them all over. Can't verify
> what model it was, but rumor has it that it was a GMC JIMMY.
> > > >
> > > > Then a cop car came along and out jumped Officer Coatsy, who proceeded
> to yell at all the dead webmasters splattered all over the road. "I told you
> this would happen if you stood in the middle of the road every day."
> > > >
> > > > In the confusion that ensued, Alec and Ars, locked in the back of
> Officer Coatsy's car for suspected marijuana possession, kicked out the
> window and walked away.
> > > >
> > > > So, you really didn't miss anything.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > Posts: 1102
> > > >
> > > > Crash83
> > > > Uzer
> > > > Re: Truth
> > > > Posted: 4/9/02 11:06:16 pm
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > > > Alec Can we really say to everybody what happened or should we keep
> our mouths shut?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > Posts: 137
> > > >
> > > > Silent Bob jedi knight
> > > > Moderator
> > > > Community Supporter
> > > >
> > > > Re: Truth
> > > > Posted: 4/9/02 11:09:46 pm
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > > > I like Blasters story but yeah you summed it up Alec
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> > > > Posts: 134
> > > >
> > > > TheArsenal
> > > > Administrator
> > > > Re: Truth
> > > > Posted: 4/9/02 11:09:48 pm
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > > >
> > > > Quote:
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > In the confusion that ensued, Alec and Ars, locked in the back of
> Officer Coatsy's car for suspected marijuana possession, kicked out the
> window and walked away.
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > must have been a different ars.. cause i never touch the stuff.. bad
> for you...
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> > > >
> > > > I swear to drunk I'm not God ocifer
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > Posts: 4696
> > > >
> > > > htp00
> > > > Administrator
> > > > Re: Truth
> > > > Posted: 4/10/02 1:24:23 am
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > > > I plead the 5th on that one.... Arse wasnt there...lol Who's arse???
> > > >
> > > > I summed it up right crash???
> > > >
> > > > Alec
> > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > > Planet Girlco
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > Posts: 2263
> > > >
> > > > Silent Bob jedi knight
> > > > Moderator
> > > > Community Supporter
> > > >
> > > > Re: Truth
> > > > Posted: 4/10/02 1:38:33 am
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > damn i think i should put my boots on now, cause.. well anyways
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> > > > Posts: 138
> > > >
> > > > Cassiopeia
> > > > Uzer
> > > >
> > > > Re: Truth
> > > > Posted: 4/10/02 2:45:52 am
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > > > Great one MasterBlaster, tee hee.
> > > > "And I see your schwartz is as big as mine. Now let's see how well you
> HAN-dle it."
> > > > - Dark Helmet
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> > > > Posts: 24
> > > >
> > > > Crash83
> > > > Uzer
> > > > Re: Truth
> > > > Posted: 4/10/02 10:21:16 am
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > Yea thats pretty close Alec but people don't know how close to home
> this hit for everybody....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > Posts: 138
> > > >
> > > > theasianlover2000
> > > > Moderator
> > > > Re: Can anyone explain exactly what happened?
> > > > Posted: 4/10/02 10:31:45 am
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > Just wondering did you go to jail alec?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > Posts: 118
> > > >
> > > > htp00
> > > > Administrator
> > > > Re: Can anyone explain exactly what happened?
> > > > Posted: 4/10/02 10:46:51 am
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > > > ya
> > > >
> > > > Alec
> > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > > Planet Girlco
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Edited by: htp00 at: 4/10/02 10:14:48 am
> > > >
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > Posts: 2265
> > > >
> > > > Crash83
> > > > Uzer
> > > > Re: Can anyone explain exactly what happened?
> > > > Posted: 4/10/02 10:49:16 am
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > HAHAHAHAA No lets just say someone did...and we all knew him...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> > > > Posts: 139
> > > >
> > > > aussieteen
> > > > Uzer
> > > > alec went to jail
> > > > Posted: 4/10/02 1:15:39 pm
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > lmao
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> > > > Posts: 2993
> > > >
> > > > Brother Blueyez
> > > > Uzer
> > > >
> > > > Re: alec went to jail
> > > > Posted: 4/10/02 2:29:38 pm
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > I can't understand why anyone would have any questions.
> > > >
> > > > This sure helped sum it all up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> > > > Posts: 3
> > > >
> > > > yotone
> > > > Uzer
> > > >
> > > > Re: Truth
> > > > Posted: 4/10/02 2:57:19 pm
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > great story! GMC JIMMY! Fantastic!
> > > > "What is your major malfunction, numb-nuts? Didn't mommy and daddy
> give you enough attention when you were a child?!" www.pigtail-girls.com
> Submit those pigtail pic's to me!
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> > > > Posts: 118
> > > >
> > > > tqueens
> > > > Global Moderator
> > > >
> > > > Re: Can anyone explain exactly what happened?
> > > > Posted: 4/10/02 5:09:23 pm
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > This sucks, I hate ezboard!
> > > > -----------------------------------
> > > > Teen Queens
> > > > Fav Teen Pics
> > > > Perfect Babes
> > > > Bombastic Teens
> > > > Teens In Stockings
> > > > -----------------------------------
> > > > Email me or ICQ me at 130321510
> > > > -----------------------------------
> > > > Webmasters make money here
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> > > > Posts: 466
> > > >
> > > > Joe Boxer
> > > > Uzer
> > > > Re: Can anyone explain exactly what happened?
> > > > Posted: 4/11/02 2:47:58 am
> > >
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> > > > wtf im gone for a few days and boom everyhitng goes to hell and comes
> back ezboard. god this is terrible there is no new miss bear pics and cass
> changed her name to princess blue something. you knwo what im going to jsut
> blaim george bush, stare at the chick at the top of the page, take some
> asprin, and get some fucking sleep.
> > > >
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