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<nomeparece@gmx.net> hey kids! J-D marston <mars0139@umn.edu> Re: nettime William Gibsons Pattern Recognition and Ethnomathematics - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 04:17:36 +0100 To: nettime-l@bbs.thing.net From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=9A=AC=9A?= <nomeparece@gmx.net> Subject: hey kids! this subliminal thread is pure propaganda... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:39:10 CST From: J-D marston <mars0139@umn.edu> Subject: Re: nettime William Gibsons Pattern Recognition and Ethnomathematics Hey Paul. I'm not gonna' fuck off. I really think you're skirting a dialogue through establishment snubbing.. But maybe you'll reply more productively in this next exchange. > J - you're kind of right. Yes, I did do the ads, and yes, I've done > others. I also try to get other kinds of information out. I guess what I'm wondering here is, do you add to the data streams no matter the substance or medium, the platform or process? If that is the case, then how do you critically deliniate what is getting information out there and what your conceptual art project is? Do you collapse the two when necessary, or is it necessary to collapse the two in order to elicit them? Tell me more about how you theorize your own work. Because as you've noted, I don't know what I'm talking about. > My name is Paul D. Miller. Dj Spooky is a conceptual art project, not > a "gaseous" situation. If you have more of an idea of the notion of > how pop culture works, think of it as a hybrid of what Marcel Duchamp > was working on with the "Rrose C'est La Vie" persona, or Andy Warhol. > Just metaphors, but metaphors that work in a large scale global > environment. The phrases I used were samples taken from I'm well aware of 'who' you are, both in assigned terms and self assigned terms. I am also aware of your art historical reasons for doing this. But I addressed you as the 'Sumbliminal Kid Inc', for this is the name of your business, hence, I thought it appropriate to address you on that level. I don't think your Dj Spooky monkier is gaseous, I said your original post was. > 1. Saul Williams single with Dj Krust "Coded language" > > 2. a couple of old hip-hop singles... > > if you'd like to compare notes on how people use this kind of > quotation in hip-hop vernacular, and many other forms of folk > culture, I'd be more than happy to dialog 'bout it. What does this have to do with A. your original post. B. the gerth of my reply. Come on Paul. I'm aware of the different ways to communicate social identification. Yes, it is powerful, subversive, and socially dynamic. Important indeed, extremely interesting no less. But that wasn't what I was questioning in your original post, which seems to be lost in the circularity of post/response, so let up a bit you expert you. Oh, thanks for attaching the interview, some how it makes sense for you to do this. J- usemenow.com > > > Subliminal Kid Inc. > > > 101 W. 23rd St. #2463 > > > New York, NY 10011 > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://amsterdam.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold