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Subject: Re: <nettime> Usenet archives sold?
     "S. Kritikos" <metacode {AT} yahoo.com>
     "S. Kritikos" <metacode {AT} yahoo.com>
     "Alberto Gaitan" <alberto {AT} null.net>

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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 11:21:12 -0800 (PST)
From: "S. Kritikos" <metacode {AT} yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Usenet archives sold?

--- Craig Brozefsky <craig {AT} red-bean.com> wrote:

> There are alternatives,
> and an important first step towards changing the world as a whole is
> to identify these alternative solutions to the particular problems we
> face day-to-day.

I agree with Craig here, the question is whether we can find some
organization such as FSF or CNRI to support it. Would we care 20 years
from now whether there are USENET archives widely and frelly available? I
think so but am not sure how we can go about to make it happen

One way might be as I suggested off the list is to work with an
organization such as ISTF.

Comments welcome

Regards
S. (Sam) Kritikos

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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 11:47:46 -0800 (PST)
From: "S. Kritikos" <metacode {AT} yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Usenet archives sold?

--- Alberto Gaitan <alberto {AT} null.net> wrote:

> If people come to fear sharing their knowledge because of copyright
> concerns, the Usenet will be no more and that unprecedented 
> conversation will be over. If they prevent archivers from making 
> a living out of their labor, that unprecedented conversation 
> will be forgotten.  
> [1] http://www.databasedata.org/hr1858/hr1858.html

Alberto, what is the legal status of databasedata.org ...
Is this an industry supported organization or an individual project?

Your response will be appreciated

Regards
S. (Sam) Kritikos

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From: "Alberto Gaitan" <alberto {AT} null.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:15:10 -0500
Subject: Re: <nettime> Usenet archives sold?

-:=====  On 17 Feb 2001, Sam Kritikos wrote:  =====:-
> > [1] http://www.databasedata.org/hr1858/hr1858.html
> 
> Alberto, what is the legal status of databasedata.org ...
> Is this an industry supported organization or an individual project?

It is a broad-based coalition of industry, educational, and NGOs 
operating. The Database Coalition mission statement [1] lists their 
primary goals as:

"We support Federal legislation that will not harm legitimate 
research activities and small businesses, but will -  

"  - prevent unfair competition in the form of parasitic copying;  

"  - preserve the fair use of information; 

"  - promote the progress of science, education and research;  

"  - protect value-added publishers and their customers; and 

"  - provide safeguards against monopolistic pricing."

It seems to have been in operation for about three years.

Hope this helps,

Alberto

[1] http://www.databasedata.org/Statement/statement.html

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