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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:39:03 +0200 (CEST)
From: ecdysone@eusocial.com
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 allo
 
 
 4 nett!me !f u dont m9nd. 
 
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 >Subject: <nettime> [2x] Sorry, there's no fee, c'mon it's just a link!
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 >Amanda
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 once upon a time a single-celled organism swallowed a 
 photosynthetic bacterium and created the first plant cell. 
 the bacterium became a chloroplast converting light into 
 energy on behalf of the plant - and the rest is history. 
 
 other single-celled organisms just kept on swallowing. 
 single-celled algae swallowed primeval plant cells; 
 these were in turn swallowed by larger single-celled organisms 
 creating microscopic russian dolls. 
 
 
 
 >      = shl b thouzandz da + da. u undrztnd = dze netuork 
 
 yes. i understand. live architecture.
 i want to give life to your celz. fertilize them! 
 want to be your gardener. want to be your roots.
 want to biosculpt your tomatoes.
 stories exist in stories. lives exist in lives. 
 
 i like it. sounds very feasible as well. 1x lovely experiment 
 in cyberbotany.
 
 and the rest is history. 
 
 
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 n* - bkausz dzere = 0+0 t!me az dze prezent.
 *n - bkausz u l!ke 2 ut!l!sz ur noodle.
 
 
 
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From: real@xs4all.nl
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 15:41:20 +0200

Valentina Tanni wrote:
> 
> I understand that the main point is that I get money: I 'm paid for writing
> some texts.
> Net Artists won't be paid only because their works are not in exhibition.

Valentina Tanni wrote to Jodi [first mail of this thread]:
> The web part of the exhibition will be only virtual, we are going to put
> the link to the project and a brief description of the work in a cd rom and
> on our website.

Valentina Tanni wrote:
> I'm very sorry about it, I hope to be able to raise money in the future and
> make a real net art show,

a real net art show?

> commissioning new works, showing old ones and also
> inviting artist to collaborate in organizing the show. But in this occasion
> the only thing I'm doing is writing an essay and giving some links to the
> people who will read the catalogue.
> 


REAL vs VIRTUAL

Interesting point here, is this discussion seem to shift to special made work
to the real expo. I wonder if all "real" artists do new pieces especially made
for the show, or that for example Pippiloti Rist is just paid for having a
"old" video shown in "real" space.  Interesting point is what would be done if
a piece by Pippiloti Rist is available on the net, say for example on the site
of her gallery and used in the way it is now done by a work as for example done
by Jodi.  But the point here goes i think further then the question of payment,
it's about how seriously netart is taken (by curators and netartists
themselves). And how easy or difficult it is to add netart that is looked at as
virtual to a real show in a real building, were people have real wages, etc.
without thinking of the implications.

ppplll

 

just to give to whole thing a different angle a question to valentina tanni:
you are paid for writing some text, does this mean that everybody that wants to
publish them after you are paid for them, can publish them freely?


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