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Steven Kurtz <kurtz+@andrew.cmu.edu> DNA bombs against DNA Faith Wilding <fwild+@andrew.cmu.edu> DNA bombs - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:59:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Steven Kurtz <kurtz+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: DNA bombs against DNA >As long as you think that biotech has some usefulness then I can accept >such tactics, as it was presented in the Village Voice to me, it smacked >of a organisation of pacificists blowing up people to further the cause >of non-violence. I~m sure that there are those who want a totalizing ban on transgenic research, but the people in the Voice article are not of that persuasion. >So my next question specific to this topic, is to ask; if all GM is not >bad, why the opposition over transgenic crops? It~s not the creation of GM crops that is necessarily a problem. The primary problem is that the usual suspect corporations are interested in monopolizing the food chain from the molecular level forward. Designer crops can be used strategically to accomplish this end. >Biodiversity is already threatened by widespread agriculture regardless >of whether the crops are genetically modified or not. This is another problem. GM crops are not likely to have a heavy impact on biodiversity in general, but can have a tremendous impact on biodiversity within a given crop. Control of a specific foodline seems to require monoculturing. Not only does this have the potential to wipe out given food resources due to lack of diversity (a doubly bad possibility since corporations tend to go after nutritional fundamentals like soy, rice, corn, and wheat), but it will disrupt personal pleasure as well. For example, there used to be 1000s of types of apples, now you can get red, green, or yellow. Industrial food--yuck. In other cases it has do with environmental risk. For example, if some of the farm raised GM salmon escape or are liberated, the destruction of river ecologies populated by ~wild~ salmon is a very high probability. >Is it just the means of production that you protest? Is it just >particular crops? What is of political and cultural significance depends on the situation. There is no general formula. >Has it to do with the gene patenting issue? Another significant problem. The privatization of genomes is another form of colonization (in this case on the bio-molecular frontier). >Or is it on other grounds, like the encouragement of chemical use or >unknown factors in human consumption of that genetic matter? Yes, as an economic strategy it~s a problem. The use of one GM product often links to another, making micro producers all the more dependent on their corporate big brothers. >Also , there are plenty of non-GM agricultural issues I see as far more >important to the environment than GM. Land clearing. Factory farming. I have to agree with you there. GM whatever in particular is not the major problem, it~s how genetic modification is being used as a means to consolidate power. Molecular strategies are new, and tactical mediaists like CAE, Heath, and Natalie are trying to figure out how to respond from within the molecular arena (as opposed to traditional or electronic resistant means). GM food gets a lot of attention because its the first way that bio-invasion explicitly enters the everyday life of the public. >A question about the 'capitalist policies' if you will humour me for a >just >short time more. Is the problem with the policies, the policies >themselves, >or the fact that they are capitalist in and of themselves. Can any >'capitalist policy' ever be an acceptable policy? Is any policy made in >today's (Western) society not capitalist? Yes, given that policies will always be capitalist in nature, there will always be an alienating, exploitive component to them. However, some policies are more desirable than others. No utopia is waiting; capitalism has won the day. But we do not have to let the total capitalist dystopia emerge either (which is what we will get if the profit machine can run without friction). >As to your comments about ethics, I believe you are wrong. No protest >movement is outside of ethics. Ethics as it is practiced by what you >oppose >may be constrained by the limitations of capitalism but that does not >mean >if you disagree with capitalism you are free of all ethics. You might be >free to say you are free of capitalist ethics but then I would say the onus >is on you to articulate what ethics you then represent. You might wish to >employ a different sort of ethics, or revise the ethics which exist; but >frankly a protest movement requires some type of ethics as its base or I >would say it's no better than the worst sort of authoritarianism. You misunderstand me. Ethics as a spectacular _discipline_ is founded on capitalist ideology. I am sure you have heard bioethicists speak at one point or another. From CAE~s experience, the assumptions of these specialists are that market economy is good, god bless western society, so what is of value for the western bourgeois subject? The ethicists subject position is not even spoken because it is such a given. Instead, there is generally a pretense of ambivilence and multiplicity, but it is only the ambivilence arising from limited diversity that can be found _within_ bourgeois culture. It~s to this discourse that Natalie was saying ~ethics, schmethics.~ She was not saying that its fine to surrender critical thinking, social responsibility, or personal accountability. --CAE - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:05:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Faith Wilding <fwild+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: DNA bombs scott: >> And of course all agricultural crops and animals > > >are 'GM' by virtue of selective breeding anyway. this is not correct really. Bioengineered genetic modification is quite different than selective breeding. For one thing it is much quicker. For another, you can recombine DNA from different species in a way you can't with hybridization and selective breeding. Yesterday I had lunch at a new biotech venture firm which prides itself on not being venture capitalist but rather a venture catalyst--"where life and computing converge." They are making it possible for professors from universities which retain the rights to their faculties' research results to team up with entrepreneurs, doctors, and independent laboratories, in order to bring their inventions to market. Their main thrust is of course the altruistic one of "human healing." We have seen the birth of the bio/medical/military industrial complex and it is powerful and ugly. This is driving what gets developed as consumer and industrial biotech far more than any ethical or intellectual discussion. I agree with Natalie Jeremijenko-- ethics-schmethics. Everybody is waiting for the ethicists to pronounce (how do ethicists establish and maintain their authority?). This lets entrepreneurs and the general public off the hook of taking any responsibility to find out much on their own. The call for tighter monitoring of biotech research from scientists is also largely bogus. Who is to do the monitoring? Who is to enforce results of that monitoring? How can we even know who those monitors are and what their motives are? The biotech firm I visited was puzzled by the fact that the announcement of the mapping of the Human Genome last summer had evoked so little interest or response in America. "We thought it would be a hot-button issue" they said, "we thought people would be picketing our offices." Ha! America loves science and science loves America. Most folks don't have a clue as to how the science or the economics of biotech work. They have a vague notion that scary things are happening, but feel powerless to grapple with it in the face of the juggernaut capitalist consumer industry beginning to market biotech. They rest hopefully on the assumption that scientists will do what is best for us and that the government will make sure everything is safe. Meanwhile the fertility industry in Assisted Reproductive Technologies is unregulated by the government,and GM food does not have to be labeled as such. Ignorance is bliss and it is easier not to face and understand the roots of our fears. Activist artists who are taking on these issues are often accused of doing the same bad deeds that the corporations are doing. But this is a misunderstanding of much of this work. The point is that many of the projects show people WHAT is being done and HOW it is being done, and how it is being driven economically and ideologically. It makes visible so much that is now totally invisible or so naturalized that it is opaque. It is important to keep stressing (especially to biotech artists) that artists must work critically with the spectacle and with representation and ideology. In my biotech art work with subRosa and with Critical Art Ensemble I have experienced how important it is for artists (amateurs) to be engaging people in this discourse. People approach it in a whole different manner than when they are confronted with "experts" or the "authorities." Let's keep the pressure up on theorizing and building critical practices around the biogenetic disturbance. Then trampling down some GM corn will soon seem like small (Monsanto) potatoes. Faith Wilding cheerios, Faith - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net