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[digested @ nettime] Table of Contents: Prescence of evil spirits "Life in Africa" <lists@lifeinafrica.com> there has never been smoke without fire "Life in Africa" <mzungu@lifeinafrica.com> Walking ghosts of war "Life in Africa" <mzungu@lifeinafrica.com> when 2 elephants fight the grass suffers "Life in Africa" <mzungu@lifeinafrica.com> The Africa Speaks Initiative "Life in Africa" <mzungu@lifeinafrica.com> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:13:04 +0300 From: "Life in Africa" <lists@lifeinafrica.com> Subject: Prescence of evil spirits From: "Africa Speaks Initiative" <africa-speaks-subscribe@topica.com> Name: Okia Ak Age: 16-25 Occupation: Businessman Nationality: Ugandan Terrorism is a common phenomenon in Africa because it has been manifested in so many different ways. It has brought a lot of suffering to so many people especially in Northern Uganda. The US attacks were very dangerous and they should be fought globally. Governments should also get ways in which to avoid future conflicts, as well as stop support for terrorist activities. Terrorism today is a prescence of evil spirits in both the 20th and 21st centuries. Okia Ak, Uganda Okia_Ak@lifeinafrica.com Join the Africa Speaks Initiative discussion list: mailto:africa-speaks-subscribe@topica.com Searchable archives: http://LifeInAfrica.com/africa_speaks ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:13:15 +0300 From: "Life in Africa" <mzungu@lifeinafrica.com> Subject: there has never been smoke without fire From: "Africa Speaks Initiative" <africa-speaks-subscribe@topica.com> Name: Byarugaba Benson Age: 16-25 Occupation: self employed Tribe: Munyankole Nationality: Ugandan My view of the American attack is that there must be a long time hatred between the Americans and the terrorists because there has never been smoke without fire. However may God forgive the world for the innocent shedding of blood. Some people believe in living history but this earns no reward. The war itself might have resulted from religious differces between moslems and christians just like the case here in Uganda in Kasese district. However, America should not revenge because some innocent people will be killed in many countries where war may be waged. Byarugaba Benson Byarugaba_Benson@lifeinafrica.com Join the Africa Speaks Initiative discussion list: mailto:africa-speaks-subscribe@topica.com Searchable archives: http://LifeInAfrica.com/africa_speaks ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:22:26 +0300 From: "Life in Africa" <mzungu@lifeinafrica.com> Subject: Walking ghosts of war From: "Africa Speaks Initiative" <africa-speaks-subscribe@topica.com> Name: Lamwaka Beatrice Age: 16-25 Occupation: Student Tribe: Acoli Nationality: Ugandan America is great and must realise it is a super power and everything they will decide will affect the the whole world, therefore must scrutinise the situation before rushing to any action. There is need for peace talk between the americans and the terrorist so that many lives(innocent) are not lost, this will take an eternity to end. Sincerely, I do not know, I only think it is a terrorist attack and they should be dealt with and not a group otr notion,not all people in a nation are criminals. America should not revenge by starting a war. No! War is not the solution. The question is war against who? Americans should not rush to war but find out the truth and must find a heart to forgive and that will proof that America is a super power. Whenever america suffers the rest of the world suffer too. I was born in a war affected area of Northern Uganda. My education was delayed and many people in my home area have watched their loved ones mutilated, slaughtered and it is a very traumatising experience. My brother was abducted by the rebels for four weeks. By the time he came back home, we had alredy performed the retual of "dead and not found". The whole time after his arrival to his death, he was treated like a ghost.I hate war and I am sure it is not the solution to terrorism, because it will continue. I would have finished my education by now, but could not because I spent my time runing in and out of class everytime I heard a gun shot. Lamwaka Beatrice LamwakaBeatrice@lifeinafrica.com Join the Africa Speaks Initiative mailing list: mailto:africa-speaks-subscribe@topica.com Searchable archives: http://LifeInAfrica.com/africa_speaks ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:16:45 +0300 From: "Life in Africa" <mzungu@lifeinafrica.com> Subject: when 2 elephants fight the grass suffers From: "Africa Speaks Initiative" <africa-speaks-subscribe@topica.com> Name: Pamela Email: pamela@lifeinafrica.com Age: 36-50 Occupation: Research assistant Nationality: Ugandan My condolences to the American people,these are my views. America should not respond by war. Whoever did these terrorist attacks should stop it because they are shedding blood of innocent people. America should check it's policies(external) especially on security/economy(aid). America is a terrorist country whose aim and goal is to terrorise Others. The accusaton they are making aganist Osama Bin Laden is not just enough. America trained this man to fight aganist Russians. If he has turned aganist them it's okay except that when 2 elephants fight the grass suffers. It's the innocent people who died in these attacks. America should not respond by war because violence cannot solve violence. They should treat the cause and not the effects. America is involved in helping israel to terrorise the palestinians who pour innocent blood. When they are attacked they respond with fire, others are also human beings created in God's image. America is number 1 in violeting human rights and in dictatorship. America is fond of dictating terms for other countries that will suit them especially developing countries, they are not given chance to develope thus will remain undeveloped. Alot of strings are usually attached. In conclusion America is like a woman who goes to fetch water in a pot and puts a thorn on the way for her enemies but as she comes back it pieces her on the foot and she breaks the pot. America deserves it as acountry but i feel sorry for the innocent ones Pamela,Uganda pamela@lifeinafrica.com Join the Africa Speaks Initiative mailing list: mailto:africa-speaks-subscribe@topica.com Searchable archives: http://LifeInAfrica.com/africa_speaks ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 03:58:20 +0300 From: "Life in Africa" <mzungu@lifeinafrica.com> Subject: The Africa Speaks Initiative Hi all - Greetings from Uganda, where we have now laid a big chunk of the groundwork for an innovative experiment in global democracy. Beginning 18 September, the Africa Speaks Initiative will bring the true voices of the African grassroots into international internet-based discussions about the current global crisis. Geert has invited me to post selected messages from the Africa Speaks Initiative to this list. If you would like to receive ALL of the messages posted through the Africa Speaks Initiative, you can sign up with a blank email to africa-speaks-subscribe@topica.com There is a press release at http://LifeInAfrica.com which describes the project in greater detail. We're all pretty excited about it here in Kampala, and hope that you will assist us by telling as many people as possible. We also hope you'll reply to the posts, and ask questions that can help guide the discussions in a fruitful direction. Thanks in advance for your participation in the Africa Speaks Initiative. You'll hear more from us tomorrow! Christina Jordan http://LifeInAfrica.com /<<>>\\\\<<>>////<<>>\\\\<<<>>>////<<>>\\\\<<>>////<<>>\ The Life in Africa Foundation PO Box 28825, Kampala, Uganda http://LifeInAfrica.com Echoes of Africa mailto:echoes-subscribe@topica.com ------------------------------ # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net