Doug Henwood on Sun, 20 Jan 2002 01:05:13 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> In Gold We Trust, part 1 |
Keith Hart wrote: >It should be clear from several recent postings that open money or LETS is >not just about community currencies, but the many forms of exchange circuit >that might be built using them. It has hitherto been understood that they >normally function as small-scale local networks, but this is an >unnecessarily restrictive form and we are now exploring others. This is a >broad church and experimental project that is open to learning from or >combining with any contemporary money system, whether state money, Paypal, >hawala, commercial barter or social credit. Our emphasis is on the people >who make the money they use for exchange. Community cirrencies are issued >by all members whenever any of them goes into a negative balance. The >promise to pay is made by each of them, unlike a single issuer currency >(whether state or private). We believe that these forms are inherently more >robust becaiuse they are democratic and multiple. The default of some >members does not limit the ability of the others to trade. LETS systems >cannot suffer from a run on the bank, although they may experience >difficulty in recruiting individuals willing to trade. > >In the course of our work, we often run up against money experts who insist >that state money is the only feasible kind and who have a potted history of >money in their heads that justifies this assumption. They are usually, but >not always, academics. I ask nettimers to judge which is the greater fetish >-- to worship one of two eternal verities, gold or the state, or to try to >develop forms of money issued by the people themselves? I'm not an academic, though my head is sometimes potted. I'm still at a loss to understand how these "community currencies" would be used to pay for products outside the community. Or will every community have its own steel mill and chip plant? It's a big leap from using scrip to exchange products at a roughly similar level of technical complexity and capital intensity - meals for haircuts, housecleaning for dogwalking. But what about things that require machinery, financing, specialized labor, and entities that extend across time and space to produce them? How would a New Yorker like me get a computer or an orange? Once you get beyond exchanging simple goods and services in a small geographical area, you have to have a state-guaraneteed token (or gold), or you can't have commerce. Or are you really proposing that production be undertaken strictly on a local scale? Do you even think about the relations between money and production beyond the level of sentiment and wish? Doug # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net