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Re: <nettime> hoax plus digest [lukens, silver, brown] Alan Sondheim <sondheim@panix.com> RE: <nettime> hoax plus digest [brown] eduardo@navasse.net Industry LLLLLiiist "Paulukonis, Michael (RHD-DUN)" <Michael.Paulukonis@rhd.com> Re: <nettime> noting but industry! lagadu@altern.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 21:21:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Alan Sondheim <sondheim@panix.com> Subject: Re: <nettime> hoax plus digest [lukens, silver, brown] Lachlan - What industry are we involved in? For many of us, "the" industry is in itself problematic. There are many lists dealing with this - for example community informatics. Nettime works precisely because it's leaky; its focus is partial; there's room for everything from the unstable digest on. Alan Work at http://www.anu.edu.au/english/internet_txt Older at http://lists.village.virginia.edu/~spoons/internet_txt.html Trace Projects at http://trace.ntu.ac.uk/writers/sondheim/index.htm CDROM of collected work 1994-2002 available: write sondheim@panix.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 00:56:28 -0700 From: eduardo@navasse.net Subject: RE: <nettime> hoax plus digest [brown] Lachlan Brown Wrote: > >The people who read Nettime are primarily involved >in the industry. I think Nettime should become more >of an industry list. > >There are lists that handle the creative and critical >aspects with greater focus. Industry issues public/private >sectors are not discussed with such focus. > >NE thoughts? > >Lachlan _________________ I was surprised to read the above. What exactly is "the industry?" I know some people who subscribe to nettime personally and/or virtually, and can say that they do not necessarily work commercially (if that is what is meant by industry), and if they do, they do look forward to the "critical aspects" that develop in the postings. How fast some nettimers forgot the endeavors of Bosma and Fusco... If anything else that whole Documenta thread was one of the most interesting of recent times. If the above is true, I am extremely disappointed. This "Friday the 13 post" should be filed under "minor art world hoax," as Peter Lunenfeld previously posted. Peace, Eduardo Navas - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: "Paulukonis, Michael (RHD-DUN)" <Michael.Paulukonis@rhd.com> Subject: Industry LLLLLiiist Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 08:11:31 -0400 List? to which side? Industry? the Culture Industry? swing:shift -the Other Michael http://xraysmalevich.tripod.com/alternativetonoise http://www.watermelonpunch.com/whirl/ "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people together to collect wood or assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea." --Antoine de Saint Exupery from: "Lachlan Brown" <lachlan@london.com> date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:55:41 +0000 subject: Nettime should be an Industry list The people who read Nettime are primarily involved in the industry. I think Nettime should become more <...> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 21:41:51 +0200 From: lagadu@altern.org Subject: Re: <nettime> noting but industry! nettime's_H0AX0R wrote: > From: "Lachlan Brown" <lachlan@london.com> > > The people who read Nettime are primarily involved > in the industry. I think Nettime should become more > of an industry list. > > There are lists that handle the creative and critical > aspects with greater focus. Industry issues public/private > sectors are not discussed with such focus. > > NE thoughts? > > Lachlan Ach so ! do you think poetry is industry, art is industry, net.art is industry, crypto is industry, EZLN is industry, no border is industry , individual liberties are industry..... Maybe you'll be right as time goes by. But I do hope you are still a bit wrong and early and for this bit I 'll stay some more on nettime. If you happened to be right, or the majority of the list give you right, I would unsubscribe ASAP. non-industrially yours Chris - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net