McKenzie Wark on Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:42:22 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> joxe's empire of disorder |
Thanks to Brian for his comments. I can't really speak for Alain Joxe, but in the main his book seems to address the mainstream centre-left political spectrum. In his view there is something to be said for state or para-state organizations (the EU for example) which can offer some protection to those within their envelope, and which can adopt an approach to international affairs that emphasises the maintenance or reconstruction of political space. I don't necessarily agree with what Joxe writes, but the book is certainly food for thought. On Brian's other points: On the one hand, globalisation is really just a return to 19th century capitalism. Nothing new there, except the scale. On the other hand, I think there is something very new in the extension of the abstraction of property to information. It creates a whole new regime of commodification that impacts on the underdeveloped world as much as the overdeveloped world. I wasn't at the Social Forum, so all I can say is that it is an interesting dance, a courtship, if you will, between the 'social forum' people (call 'em what you like) and the old line left of centre parties. But is is far from clear who is seducing who, or who will end up on top... One of the more interesting developments in globalising the movement are those attempts by unions in the overdeveloped world to lend their resources to unionising the under developed world. This is in the self interest of workers in the overdeveloped world -- it need not be seen as a 'postmaterialist' politics. Its a way of resisting the imposition of the 19th century on the underdeveloped world. ___________________________________________________ http://subsol.c3.hu/subsol_2/contributors0/warktext.html ... we no longer have roots, we have aerials ... ___________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net