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Re: <nettime> Google's Weapons of Mass Destruction Amy Alexander <plagiari@plagiarist.org> Keith Sanborn <mrzero@panix.com> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 05:47:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Amy Alexander <plagiari@plagiarist.org> Subject: Re: <nettime> Google's Weapons of Mass Destruction i'm not sure the search engine is actually detourned in this case... it seems unlikely that the guy planned to achieve the #1 ranking for that searchterm and thus become the result of the "i'm feeling lucky" button... seems more likely to me that he just put the page up as a joke (and possible moneymaker) without considering it as a google intervention or even much of a political statement... beyond that, i'm sort of debating whether i think google mucked with the results to make that one come out on top... on the one hand i guess with all its blog links it *could* have achieved the highest pagerank... on the other hand, it's convenient PR for google, and fits in with their "fun-loving" corporate image (like the "elmer fudd" language translations, etc... ) whether they also get some kickback from amazon i'm not sure.. :-) ... but, when i first saw the site, i actually thought it was a google plant at first, before learning it was an individual's site... On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, Keith Sanborn wrote: > But this is an interesting case where the search engine is detourned, but > then the politics are recuperated by a commercial impulse. Usually, they - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 11:26:37 -0400 From: Keith Sanborn <mrzero@panix.com> Subject: Re: <nettime> Google's Weapons of Mass Destruction (fwd) Dear Amy: It's an interesting point and one inquiring minds would like to know the answer to: how do you achieve number one ranking on Google; it's also one many people very clever people have been paid to think about. We've all seen the junkmail offering to shoot our website to the top of the search engine rankings. Even with a phrase as commonly distributed through-out the net as is "weapons of mass destructive" it should theoretically be possible to achieve such status, more or less by plan. Previously, metatags were a big part of the picture. Perhaps, this was a calculated strategy which exploits the influence of bloggers. Given google's own corporate interest in blogging, this is not beyond the realm of possibility. It's like engineering the number one hit single, an A&R man's wet dream. Hence the manipulation ("detournement" "recuperation" "manipulation" "appropriation to one's own uses") may still be a factor. But to take the bloggers by storm to the point that they could tilt the result to send him to the top of the charts is not so predictable I think. If this guy has his finger on the pulse of blogculture to that point, he'll be getting a lot of phone calls from corporate types and will be able to charge astronomical sums as a consultant, or if he can even create that perception, or if that perception exists, whether planned, or not. Shit, he'll be getting calls from the democratic and republican parties. Appearing at the top of the Google list could replace the "Letterman effect." I agree with your characterization of Google and it is not impossible. It would certainly be interesting to know whether this was engineered behind the scenes to "succeed." It does certainly focus more attention on Google and in this case that is translatable into profits. However, if it did happen and word got out, it would immediately discredit them. One wonders why they'd risk so much when they're already at the top of the heap of search engines themselves. But then they didn't get there by not taking risks and by not innovating in information culture. Keith >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 05:47:22 -0700 (PDT) >From: Amy Alexander <plagiari@plagiarist.org> >To: nettime-l@bbs.thing.net >Subject: Re: <nettime> Google's Weapons of Mass Destruction > >i'm not sure the search engine is actually detourned in this case... >it seems unlikely that the guy planned to achieve the #1 ranking for that <...> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net