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nettime's muscle critics on Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:20:49 +0200 (CEST)

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   RE: <nettime> While Californians vote... Arnold Unplugged (Greg Palast)         
     kranenbu {AT} xs4all.nl                                                              

   arnie's track record                                                            
     coco fusco <animas999 {AT} yahoo.com>                                                

   i don't know about anti-intellectualism, but...                                 
     Ryan Griffis <grifray {AT} yahoo.com>                                                


Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:45:16 +0200 (CEST)
From: kranenbu {AT} xs4all.nl
Subject: RE: <nettime> While Californians vote... Arnold Unplugged (Greg Palast)

After all it is the perfect mise en abyme of Gramsci's notion of hegemony
that simply states that you gotta have cultural power before you can have
political power, and as the progressive sides do nought but talk, it those
who make themselves in movies who get to rule. The actual voting process
is completely irrelevant, this is and was a perfectly predictable outcome,
necessarily so.


Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 07:57:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: coco fusco <animas999 {AT} yahoo.com>
Subject: arnie's track record

Actually, there are good reasons to take the Naziallegations
seriously...including photographs ofArnold dressed in SS regalia, not for
a film role, butfor his own pleasure and quotes on public record inwhich
Arnold claimed that Hitler was a reallyorganized guy who got the job
done...in addition tothe already known connection via his father who was
amember of the Nazi party...It would actually be ridiculous and perilous
NOT toconsider possible Nazi connections when it comes to politicians
hailing from Arnie's birthplace, ratherthan the assuming no connection
until admitted by theRepublican party.  Don't forget, IBM, The
RockefellerFoundation and scores of other major Americanfinancial entities
make a mint off their deals withthe Nazis. American eugenicists defended
Nazi"science" all the way through WWII, and thanks toOperation Paperclip
the US got dozens of the top Naziscientists into America who left us with
a greatlegacy, from NASA to government sponsored mind
controlexperiments,cyborg research and genetics.CF

--- Curt Hagenlocher <curth {AT} motek.com> wrote:
> > From: geert lovink[mailto:geert {AT} xs4all.nl]
> > Sent: Tuesday,October 07, 2003 3:03 PM

> >
> > I asked Mr. Muscle's PR people to comment on the



Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:28:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ryan Griffis <grifray {AT} yahoo.com>
Subject: i don't know about anti-intellectualism, but...

this can't be good can it?
"Ronny Zibinski, a 19-year-old Berlin technician, said
he liked the idea of a Schwarzenegger-type chancellor
for Germany. "We need someone like that to clean up
the mess and blow away the lousy politicians," he


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