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Re: <nettime> What *ARE* New Media? [4x]
nettime's mechanical typewriter on Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:23:21 +0200 (CEST)

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   Re: <nettime> What *ARE* New Media?                                             
     noah wardrip-fruin <nwf {AT} brown.edu>                                              

     "Daniel Young" <danielyoung {AT} rcn.com>                                            

   Re: <nettime> What *ARE* New Media?                                             
     Frank Wales <frank {AT} limov.com>                                                   

   Re: <nettime> What *ARE* New Media?                                             
     Alan Sondheim <sondheim {AT} panix.com>                                              


Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:28:11 -0400
From: noah wardrip-fruin <nwf {AT} brown.edu>
Subject: Re: <nettime> What *ARE* New Media?

At 12:56 PM -0400 10/11/03, Newmedia {AT} aol.com wrote:
>As the fellow who "coined" the term NEW MEDIA (circa 1990, in preparation
>for the America Online IPO, whereupon Steve Case awarded me this email
>address), I have often been asked -- So what the HECK is (er, are) New
>Media, anyway?

"Simulations and games, in many forms and for many subjects, are 
among the most recent innovations in instructional technique. Some 
are hardly 'new media,' however, because they are as simple and 
familiar as card or board games." (p.93)

- - James A. Robinson, "Simulation and Games." In _The New Media and 
Education_, edited by Peter H. Rossi and Bruce J. Biddle. Aldine 
Publishing, Chicago, 1966.


Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:30:04 -0400
From: "Daniel Young" <danielyoung {AT} rcn.com>
Subject: Coining 

I told NewZoid that "Nettime Member Claims Coining Of Term 'New Media'."

In return, NewZoid reported the following headlines from parallel =

Egyptian Twins Claiming Coining Of Term 'New Media'
Pakistan Marks End Of Term 'New Media'
Hacker Suspect Escapes 'Clinging To Bottom Of Term 'New Media'
Nettime Member To Probe Mars Rocks For Next Potter
Nettime Member Makes History
US Surgeons Claim Coining Of Progress
Morocco Women Claim Coining Of Term 'New Media'
Nettime Member To Develop New Cancer Radiation Method
Philadelphia Mayor Subject Of Term "New Media"
Student Claiming Coining Of World Series
Hewlett-Packard Claims Coining Of Term 'New Media'
US Pundit Claiming Coining Of Term 'New Media'
Nettime Member Protests Televangelist's Remark
Chile Deputy Claims Coining Of Term 'New Media'
US Surgeons Claim Coining Of Butter-Filled Shoes
Elvis Impersonator Claims Coining Of Retaliation
Intuit Claims Coining Of Term 'New Media'
Experts Claim Coining Of Term 'New Media'
Yankees Claim Coining Of Progress
Nettime Member Regains World Record

Best Wishes,
Daniel Young


Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 02:23:05 +0100
From: Frank Wales <frank {AT} limov.com>
Subject: Re: <nettime> What *ARE* New Media?

On 10/12/03 14:44, twsherma {AT} mailbox.syr.edu wrote:
> The use of "mediums" instead of the word "media," the correct plural of
> medium, would help this definition.  

Well, I think 'mediums' can be a correct plural; for example,
when referring to several old dears called Doris who claim to
speak for the dead.  I don't know of many new ones, though.

> I hate to think that people will soon
> be calling themselves "new mediums artists," but perhaps this is
> inevitable.  

I disliked it when 'e-mail messages' became 'emails', and I can
already see signs that 'programs' is becoming 'softwares'.  Heigh-ho.

- -- 
Frank Wales [frank {AT} limov.com]


Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 01:36:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Alan Sondheim <sondheim {AT} panix.com>
Subject: Re: <nettime> What *ARE* New Media?

But is it acoustic, or, more radically, dispersion? I see more and more
people doing wifi hotspots, cellphone with sms, etc. etc. Surroundsound is
still monolith, house-bound, Cartesian; there's always a focus, an origin
- - the screen itself (btw I can't believe that the consumer market's
dominated by home theaters - I would have thought wifi pdas, gameboys
etc., game phone etc.).

As others have said here, it's not architecture, but body - the technology
literally suits us. I've been using a linux Zaurus with wifi recently, and
my body attitude radically shifts - the pda is almost like the concretiza-
tion of thought, the hand curls around it.

Fluid technologies, fluid spaces, the particulation of the audience - a
flux which ranges from guerilla group organization to Bryant Park
wireless. These have more in common with electromagnetic spectral issues
than with architectures that attempt to reproduce what is already a
hopeless tendency towards simulacrum.

And we're not becoming New Media - new media is becoming Us. -

- - Alan

http://www.asondheim.org/ http://www.asondheim.org/portal/.nikuko
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