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<nettime> wrong signals [Dani, Pieter]

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     "Dani" <2w020f802 {AT} sneakemail.com>                                               

   re; <nettime> wrong signals                                                     
     "Pieter" <smallaxe {AT} xs4all.nl>                                                   


Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:48:56 +0100
From: "Dani" <2w020f802 {AT} sneakemail.com>
Subject: Re: <nettime> wrong signals

Ian Dickson <ian AT iand.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> The pictures I saw (on the BBC) of cheering crowds in Iraq seemed to 
> indicate that lots of people in Iraq, those who know SH best, are 
> quite pleased with the turn of events.

Not everybody is so happy.  Read some blogstream media

murphy <murphy AT thing.net> wrote:
> Did anyone else notice that one of the "spontaneous demonstrations" 
> shown on TV had a number of communist flags waving?

>From Riverbend blog (the link above):
| central Baghdad was a storm of gunfire. The communist party were 
| scary- it's like they knew beforehand. Immediately, their red flags 
| and banners were up in the air and they were marching up and down the 
| streets and around Firdaws Square. My cousin was caught in the middle 
| of a traffic jam and he says the scenes were frightening. 
| The bullets are supposed to be an expression of joyÖ and they 
| probably are- in a desert, far from buildings, streets crawling with 
| vulnerable people and cars. In Baghdad, they mean chaos. People were 
| literally ducking and running, trying to get out of the rain of 
| firepower because what goes up must, eventually, come down. 

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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 04:28:37 +0100
From: "Pieter" <smallaxe {AT} xs4all.nl>
Subject: re; <nettime> wrong signals

Ring ring braaahh

Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:16:32 -0500
From: Rick Bradley <roundeye AT roundeye.net>
Subject: Re: <nettime> wrong signals

>The fallacy, discredited soundly 825 days ago, yet still so readily at
>the hand of the ignorant ...
>This conflict is being prosecuted in large part as a penance...
>To put it as plainly as possible, we have been soundly and bloodily
>instructed on the matter and the lesson is this:  if we don't humiliate
>Them They will kill us...

Sorry, SH was not behind the 9/11 attacks as far as we know, nor did he
have any links with OBL or AQ as far as we know. The analogy stinks, as
does most of your argument.

>it is stupid not to accelerate the war of attrition
>against the radical hatemongers bent on turning this planet into a
>Wahabbist acid-throwing honor-killing jihadi nightmare is asking for a
>fucking wake-up call.

Sorry, SH is not a Wahhabi. If anything he was yr average US-backed
secular postcolonial dictator and had severe trouble over his infidel
ways with his neighbors, as has been well documented.

Have you ever visited an Arab country I wonder? You should. No more
medieval than say Brussels I assert.

Cheers, P.

En overigens ben ik van mening dat vrije radio erkend dient te worden
als derde, niet-commerciŽle, niet-publieke categorie van radio.


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