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Table of Contents: media arts Kenneth Fields <ken@ccom.edu.cn> Re: <nettime> questions to nettime "porculus" <porculus@wanadoo.fr> Re: <nettime> questions to nettime Peter Luining <email@ctrlaltdel.org> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:28:48 +0800 From: Kenneth Fields <ken@ccom.edu.cn> Subject: media arts > Do something about. Do while you talk - theorize - discuss. Help with the digital art ontology at http://dao.cim3.net . It may be a bit of a glass bead game, but you'd be surprised how hard it is sometimes to be specific. Until we do, there is no rigor in Mudsville. By the way, those terms are just the tip of the iceverb. Ken. > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:25:46 +0100 (CET) > From: David Gonzalez <douglasengelbart@yahoo.es> > Subject: <nettime> questions to nettime > > I've got a question seeking some kind of answer please.. > > does anybody know why there's such a mess with the terms > > media arts > new media arts > digital art > interactive art > > and also sometimes they all get mixed up into the > art+science+technology area > as part of it.... > ? Powered by MessageSoft SMG SPAM, virus-free and secure email http://www.messagesoft.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 13:43:00 +0100 From: "porculus" <porculus@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: <nettime> questions to nettime > from > Duchamp's Readymades to Christo's wrapped Reichstag. > The rest is little more than territorial squabbling among > academics. just finding tiny time for dealing with my 300 spam viagra & 400 enlargement pils, only real message global media village tzeteraz you all illadviseldly filter for dealing with your so local podunk à la rhizome things for telling why embarasse yourself with those ridicoulous catholique tiny duchampian thing hombre, that are just small latin jesuitique clockwork play acting that couldnt even not amusing vatican no more he had to cross over atlantique for stuning those uptight aborigene living there called newyorker & this traumatized when young jansenist christo who wanted to veiled vrithing since he saw his mother stark naked..stop to look down just at the end of you american nike, raise your head & look up over there..beyond your gang & just read what all foucaldian would find as kilotonic poezis, flabbergasted as pliny in front of a vomiting vesuvius, in fear to be change of stone of salt if you were only a second disturb by anything else than 'because its effect start sooner and last much longer, shipped worlwide'. adios XX centuryz with its never honoured promise & blah media, hello declassified XXI century, at last all the military secret secularised hombre ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:29:30 +0100 From: Peter Luining <email@ctrlaltdel.org> Subject: Re: <nettime> questions to nettime Sunday, February 22, 2004, 1:38:24 PM, robert wrote: robert> V2 probably got it just about right all those years ago when robert> they called themselves "Institute for the Unstable Media". robert> "Unstable Media" not only covers all the technical media robert> (defined as anything that needs electricity and an on-off robert> switch) but also most 20th Century art forms -- from robert> Duchamp's Readymades to Christo's wrapped Reichstag. Right, but with Unstable Media I also have to think of paint on unprepared canvas or bad quality ink on on paper, so what a lot of people would call old media. So an important factor with all this is the material, bad quality ink or paper will last even shorter that an old analogue cassette tape. Peter # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net