august on Thu, 4 Aug 2005 10:40:39 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> Benjamin Mako Hill on Creative Commons |
here is my argument in a nutshell: a.) you are using the rhetoric of freedom for the sake of persuasion. I find this rhetoric to be incredibly hollow and needless. b.) you think the CC is not "free" enough, and therefore detrimental to your cause, becuase it doesn't emit the same attitude or, as you say, ethic of freedom. I'm not crazy about them, but I think the CC lics offer some needed options. c.) I don't think the right to distribute something at will is a necessary prerequisite of "freedom"? Let's say I make something, a song or a piece of software. I grant you the permission to use it or play it, to sample it or modify it. Let's say I even give you the right to copy it for a friend. Why should I give you complete rights to copy it verbatim and distribute it for money? Or, the better question in your case is, why would that be less "free"? (please don't answer, "because that is what Stallman says, and those are the definitions of free software". also, please don't answer "because information wants to be free") d.) the free software definition only addresses the use and distribution of software. it doesn't take the fact of production into account, demanding that a producer give up all his/her rights. the CC license, on the other hand, offers a real choice to a producer of something. Why should someone who has spent their creative energy immediatly release ALL control over their outcomes, especially in a world of totalitarian capitalism where the scales are tipped in the favor of obvious parties? e.) just because there has been some consensus here on nettime, doesn't mean that non-commercial clauses would be immpossible. the CC licenses have some interesting flavors and I am curious to know if any of them will ever be contended. I'm not a lawyer, but I do see fuzzy definitions in other parts of society - like in some tax definitions, where if you can claim something as art, then it has special cultural status and recieves a different tax percentage. f.) I see a lot of cultural funding and support for art in some parts of the western world. Stallman, himself, suggests a "Software Tax" in the GNU manifesto. There has even been some concesus here on nettime that software is social. So where is the non-commercial support for FLOSS production? Why are few activists focused on finding ways of getting software produced and programmers fed? I'm not just talking about conceptual, retinal or acoustic art ware, but real utilitarian software. g.) the free software definition, as professed by you and many others (and even by myself to some extent) is incredibly efficient, simple, complete and probably bullet-proof. It's also isolated in its own world of bits and bytes, taking little consideration for the world of flesh and desire around it. I'm curious to know what your definition of free culture is. For me it has more to do with having the "freedom" not to have to work 40+ hours a week, and more to do with having "free" time to develop the things I am interested in. While I see the point in arguing for a code of conduct or ethics, I find the entire argument to be much larger than your definition of "freedom". best -august. # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net