Bas van Heur on Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:11:15 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> Criminalization of critical academic research and political engagement |
yes, I realize most people do try to understand the rationale behind these actions. My post to the list was mainly aimed at Mason Dixon's comment, which, frankly, annoyed the hell out of me, since his comments all too easily amount to a weak liberal excuse for doing nothing (not even thinking). about your own comments: you are absolutely right - I do not want to say that policemen are simply paranoid; that would be simplistic - but you're comments are simultaneously besides the point. It's not about these moral issues, but a question of the rule of law. On the basis of what we now know: Andrej Holm has been arrested on the basis of: 1) having used phrases and words (such as 'gentrification') in his writings that have also been used by militant groups; 2) having met with people the state thinks - but of which it has no proof - are part of the 'mg'. There is no evidence of him being an intellectual figurehead for militant actions, nor any knowledge of what has been said during these meetings. These are very 'thin' reasons - to put it nicely - for arresting someone and putting them in a high-level security jail for a period of time that can be one month, but also one or two years. Paragraph 129a, you know...? so - who knows? no one does, but it might help to check the legal details before one reduces all events to subjective impressions. Bas Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > Hi, > > Bas van Heur wrote: >> understand the rationale behind this arrest > > This is what we are all trying to do. All I know is that some people > somehow related to him were trying to burn a car. Carburners are > not yet "terrorists" in the sense of the law. A group to burn a <...> # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@kein.org and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org