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Re: <nettime> Cybernetics and the Control Society |
Brian: Wiener's response was a very different one -- we are all "zombies", so we must wait for the humans to reappear. I call it his "Genius Project." My father was working with him on this and devoted his career as a historian of ancient mathematics to studying Ptolemy. Wiener's most important collaborator was Giorgio De Santillana. Take a look at his "Hamlet's Mill." The problem is that without some fundamental understanding of the difference between a human and a zombie you don't know who you are playing with. It's the Blade Runner dilemma. You are being far too generous about those you presume to be the "resisters." Btw, these topics first surfaced at the nettime Ljubljana conference "Beauty and the East" in May 1997. Mark Stahlman New York City # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@kein.org and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org