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Re: <nettime> ICT and Aboriginal Peoples
Benjamin Geer on Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:21:23 +0100 (CET)

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Re: <nettime> ICT and Aboriginal Peoples

On 27/11/2007, michael gurstein <gurstein {AT} gmail.com> wrote:
> Ben in his scholastic drive to create his own myths seems to have
> missed the point of Jesse's original message (and my reason for
> sending it along in the context of the earlier discussion...that
> is, that community based ICTs seem to offer a way for contemporary
> indigenous peoples to create for themselves sustainable futures.

Did I disagree with that?  No, I didn't.  I think community-based ICTs
are a lovely idea.  But Jesse's message was forwarded in the context
of a discussion about nationalism, and that's what I was responding

> If they need to draw on a (semi?)mythical past as a partial basis on
> which to build (design) that future, it would seem a more likely
> (and socially desirable) basis than an equally mythical historical
> hobbesianism.

I'm not a Hobbesian, I prefer Bourdieu.  And why should ecological
sustainability and redistribution of wealth require myths at all?  Do
people need to lie to themselves in order to create a better life?  I
think not.


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