Lismore on Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:35:26 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> sondheim-o-gram x2 re: Perhaps a way of teaching media |
The wisest of the wise. I will concede in my ridicule of your institutional pursuits. However :: "yes, it's formal, but no, it's not the language of control... Administrations increasingly expect "results"" what should your students be taking away from this? How can you critically respond, subvert these anxieties/pressures. The motives of arts administration do not always coincide with the the intentions of art-teachers, clearly. You provide an agenda of establishing a kind of expertise (i.e. school's providing a type of doctrine provided by faculty and staff), but for an artist like yourself, a person exploring the margins, how do you feel as a figure-head (whether or not you feel this is justified) of an institution which influences a generation of emerging media artists? On high. An interesting dilemma. Perhaps that is due to my own education. And perhaps this is where the response is coming from; a response to the schooling that welcomed me into the gentry. With you, perhaps I should have studied. The angst, the blatant misguidedness, the unfounded direct pejorative statements against persons I have never met, are all results of the education that I was given. Or perhaps these were critiques not directed towards you (or your students, or your institution). But now this fluctuating and pedantic back-peddling is damaging my original critiques. Or perhaps these words are deliberately insincere. As a constant student, I am glad that I can insult. I am pleased that I am your hypocrite. I am honored that you continue to teach. On Dec 16, 2007 1:09 PM, Alan Sondheim <sondheim@panix.com> wrote: > [digested @ nettime -- mod (tb)] > > ~Subject: Re: <nettime> Perhaps a way of teaching media > From: Alan Sondheim <sondheim@panix.com> > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:54:13 -0500 (EST) > From: Alan Sondheim <sondheim@panix.com> > Subject: Re: nettime-l Digest, Vol 3, Issue 12 > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:34:02 -0600 > > From: Lismore <villageoflonging@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: <nettime> Perhaps a way of teaching media > > To: nettime-l@kein.org > > Message-ID: <mailman.6.1197716405.95967.nettime-l@kein.org> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > To foster the potential of impressionable gray matter, such as my own and > > my "peers," around the pastiche of popular culture is not disengaging from > > its hypnosis. The promise of distributed knowledge only goes as far as the > > classroom walls, thus feeding the informatics of domination, repopulating > > the vectors of knowledge. Learning peer to peer, instructor to student, is > > not an expanded knowledge base. Instead it is incestuous, insular, and > > perpetuates the formation of margins. <...> -- L!SM0R3 # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org