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Re: <nettime> sondheim-o-gram x2 re: Perhaps a way of teaching media
Lismore on Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:35:26 +0100 (CET)


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Re: <nettime> sondheim-o-gram x2 re: Perhaps a way of teaching media


The wisest of the wise.
I will concede in my ridicule of your institutional pursuits.

However ::

"yes, it's formal, but no, it's not the language of control...
Administrations increasingly expect "results""

what should your students be taking away from this? How can you critically
respond, subvert these anxieties/pressures. The motives of arts
administration do not always coincide with the the intentions of
art-teachers, clearly. You provide an agenda of establishing a kind of
expertise (i.e. school's providing a type of doctrine provided by faculty
and staff), but for an artist like yourself, a person exploring the margins,
how do you feel as a figure-head (whether or not you feel this is justified)
of an institution which influences a generation of emerging media artists?

On high. An interesting dilemma. Perhaps that is due to my own education.
And perhaps this is where the response is coming from; a response to the
schooling that welcomed me into the gentry. With you, perhaps I should have
studied. The angst, the blatant misguidedness, the unfounded direct
pejorative statements against persons I have never met, are all results of
the education that I was given. Or perhaps these were critiques not directed
towards you (or your students, or your institution).

But now this fluctuating and pedantic back-peddling is damaging my original
critiques. Or perhaps these words are deliberately insincere.

As a constant student, I am glad that I can insult.
                                     I am pleased that I am your hypocrite.
                                     I am honored that you continue to
teach.

On Dec 16, 2007 1:09 PM, Alan Sondheim <sondheim {AT} panix.com> wrote:

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> > From: Lismore <villageoflonging {AT} gmail.com>
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> > To foster the potential of impressionable gray matter, such as my own and
> > my "peers," around the pastiche of popular culture is not disengaging from
> > its hypnosis. The promise of distributed knowledge only goes as far as the
> > classroom walls, thus feeding the informatics of domination, repopulating
> > the vectors of knowledge. Learning peer to peer, instructor to student, is
> > not an expanded knowledge base. Instead it is incestuous, insular, and
> > perpetuates the formation of margins.
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L!SM0R3


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