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Re: <nettime> If Only Indymedia Learnt To Innovate
Naeem Mohaiemen on Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:52:13 +0100 (CET)

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Re: <nettime> If Only Indymedia Learnt To Innovate

> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 04:45:17 +0100
> From: jaromil <jaromil {AT} dyne.org>
> Naeem and Theor,  sorry to say, but yours are  just rants ignoring the
> real  reasons  impeding  the  improvements  you  look  for:  licensing
> restrictions  imposed by commercial  monopolies of  multimedia formats
> on-line.  It is not to blame the inefficiency of our collectivity, but
> the prevarication of business monopolies, that now have an opportunity to
> exploit  the memories you uploaded on-line  using their proprietary
> formats.

1. When I got mad at IMC NY and was critiquing their slow process, and
inability to change, I was told by my IMC NY friend/volunteer that I
was "ranting". Apparently I was just supposed to upload my video
meekly and never complain about the sh** not working.

2. It's patronizing to say we are "ignoring the real reasons".  We are
not fools, of course we know that commercial monopolies are a huge
factor (the biggest and most dangerous and insidious one now of course

3. No doubt corporations are a large factor, but I do not accept that
they are the only factor. My experience is that it was also the
inefficiency of our own grassroots organizations that contributed. In
particular I have a bone to pick with the "consensus" process that
resulted in no decision whatsoever. When the state machinery was
unstoppable in 04 on, we were sitting in churches and fluttering our
fingers to express yea nay and getting to yeanay, no decision. I think
those lacks of inefficiencies allowed big corporations to take the

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