Andreas Broeckmann on Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:28:19 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> 'Wikipedia Art' Wikipedia entry deleted 15 February 2009 |
dear ed, clearly, the wikipedia people are very serious about what they are doing; they are acting like a universal 'land owner' who would say that there should not be any Land Art, or a proprietary owner of the Internet who would say that there should not be any Internet Art, because it was not made for it. unfortunately, this is not even a case of cruel censorship, but of systemic stupidity (which has its advantages in what they are doing), since they cannot recognise the existence of something that has no credible credentials. (this dilemma, and debates like this which flow from it, are at the heart of their grander struggle for credibility.) i think that this says much about what the wikipedia system thinks about itself, and Wikipedia Artists will have to realise that it might practically be more difficult to realise Wikipedia Art than, for instance, Land Art, or Internet Art, or Video Art. For obvious reasons. The same might be true of Walmart Art that somebody wishes to realise in Walmart stores, or (formerly) KGB Art, or uninvited International Red Cross Art happening in IRC hospitals and then asking for the scissors. the debate you refer to is part of what the contemporary Wikipedia Artist has to do and deal with, and in the long run of art history, there will be no doubt about the validity of the genre label - though there may be discussion about the artistic merit. but then that's a matter of taste and will, i trust, not be a criterion for it not to receive a Wikipedia entry, eventually. greetings, good morning, -a >Following an extensive debate, the 'Wikipedia Art' entry was deleted >at 6:32am UTC 15 February, 2009. The Wikipedia gatekeepers referred >to it as a "non-notable, self-referential mess" ... that "does not >exist in any way that merits an article." As the work's creators >note, "The work still resides at its own domain, and has passed into >its second (historical/evidentiary) phase." (link below) # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org