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Re: <nettime> A deadly beach party shooting in the Netherlands & the res
Menno Grootveld on Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:03:57 +0200 (CEST)

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Re: <nettime> A deadly beach party shooting in the Netherlands & the resurrection of the tactical media idea now with hooligans as actors and internet posters

Thank you Tjebbe for your illuminating commentary on the events of
August 23 on the beach of Hoek van Holland. I have to disagree to some
extent however about your assesment of hooliganism as a product of
the entertainment industry. While this may be true, something else is
true as well: in the current society of control hooligans represent a
kind of random resistance force. Big dance parties and football games
are events which are so massive that they are difficult to control, so
they invite people as it were to challenge the very control systems
that they are confronted with in their everyday lives. In that sense I
don't see a big distinction with the 'nozems' that you describe later
on and the punks of the late seventies. Only the level of violence
(and perhaps nihilism) has grown substantially, but I see that as
a mirror effect of the level of violence with which the society of
control attempts to keep us all in check and render us into obedient

Menno Grootveld

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