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Re: <nettime> Nobel laureate in economics aged 102 endorses the human ec
John Hopkins on Tue, 22 Jan 2013 13:18:56 +0100 (CET)

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Re: <nettime> Nobel laureate in economics aged 102 endorses the human economy...

hehe Mark

Economics is in *trouble* (like the rest of social science) because
it leaves out basic realities and these "simplifications" -- whether
in the service of "modeling assumptions" or whatever -- have now
become too important to ignore. By emphasizing the HUMANS, you have
correctly noted *one* of the parts left out. However, the humans
are highly "plastic" and largely shaped by their environment --
which, in turn, is mostly defined by technology. Do you discuss this
*environmental* effect on humans in your book?

Although I am haven't the time to promote and explore the application
a wholistic approach like 'living systems theory' or 'general system
theory' to such issues, I believe that those intellectual tools
could easily take on the scope and connectivity (immersiveness, etc)
of our reality in a way that is, imho, wider than any particular
considerations or efficacy of discipline-specific carcases, uff, I
mean models, such as you folks are picking over here.

For those who are not familiar with GST +/- -- you might consult
Ludwig von Bertalanffy, James R. Simms, James & Jessie Miller (for
example, the following references)

Bertalanffy, L. von, 1975. Perspectives on general system theory:
scientific-philosophical studies, New York, NY: G. Braziller.

Miller, J., 1995. Living systems, Niwot, CO: University Press of

Simms, J.R., 1999. Principles of quantitative living systems science,
New York, NY: Kluwer Academic/Plenum Publishers.


Dr. John Hopkins, BSc, MFA, PhD
Watching the Tao rather than watching the Dow!

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