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Re: <nettime> Mass Social Network Strike

     Matze Schmidt <matze.schmidt {AT} n0name.de>
     Orsan Senalp <orsan1234 {AT} gmail.com>

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 12:15:30 +0100
From: Matze Schmidt <matze.schmidt {AT} n0name.de>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Mass Social Network Strike

Hi Oersan,

where is the so called greed and where is the stolen work, where is
the union that negotiates the price for intelligent labor and where is
this global collective intelligence that deems itself as the
intelligence of the global?

Who are these workers, hackers, makers, farmers, artists, indignant and
outraged? You suggest them as the "99%" and trigger rehabilitation and
integration and distribution of this sold thing -- value?

The moral non-catgorie _greed_ is nothing but the outcome in mindness of
mechanisms/structures of the surplus work of surplus value. Otherwise
it'd be easy to end the bad moral and start the better, to end the evil
lust of fascism, you may consider as something resting in itself.

It appears to be the traditional 'role' of unions or unions in spe to
state we are all cheated and operationalized instead of stating the
violent processes. An peaceful ideas will make their way, no violence
please dear fascist.

M

> We are the workers whose free labour and privacy has been stolen, and sold
> for greed! We have been abused, spied on and betrayed constantly. Before
> this massive exploitation and survelliance machine turns into a global
> apparatus in the hands of fascism, being operationalized for direct
> oppression, we have to unite our fists and strike back!

> This May Day is the time... How and what is not decided yet, there are
> initial ideas but much is needed to put the global collective intelligence
> at work to defend our and our cahilden's rights and dignity! Join us this
> Sunday and bring your most free, creative, powerful and peaceful ideas and
> dreams along... We did beat Freons, Caesars, Barons, Kings, Emperors,
> Merchants, Industrial Capitalists and Nazis in the past, we can beat the
> TNCs, CEOs and 1% as well!

> We call all the workers, hackers, makers, farmers, artists, indignant and
> outraged to GNUnite all their constructive capacity around the most
> spectacular free libre and open sourced swarm to fight back and win!

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 12:58:58 +0100
Subject: Re: <nettime> Mass Social Network Strike
From: =?UTF-8?B?w5Zyc2FuIMWeZW5hbHA=?= <orsan1234 {AT} gmail.com>

Dear Mitze, the fact that there are powerfu structural forces of
capitalism at work does not mean that there is a no moral problem at
the same time. Unethical, bad and patalogic behevior, triggered by
animal instinct and greed has always been behind or in the
exploitative, oppressive destructive power over act. They have always
gone very well together right, and people are not yet machines they do
and will respond when the assoult on them is publicly recognised; for
instance would you fight for your dignity or for the analysis in your
mind in a stronger manner? Would you fight for good or is it
irrelevant in a struggle? Would you feel like abused or insulted by
your boss, by German politics or PRISM, or it wouln't make sense since
it should be like that structurally? Peaceful ideas are much powerful
and smart to get in the painful thoughts hidden in human mind, and
action upon them would enable to gain much wider (self-)recognition of
the current situation in society. If you think it is possible to do
this with agressive and violent plans, call, you might try to network
and oganise around those of course. Probably in certain time and space
coordinations they would work as well, but the situation might turn
like as it is in Syria now, within short time. Greece for instance is
another living case near center West, so they have to fight back
GoldenDawn fascism with force of course, yet still it will trigger
state-armed response targeting the weakest at a larger scale, then
people will have to fight or war back stronger... Other option is
linkup wider and stronger to be smarter before the war zone expand..
at least when it expands we would already have gained the legitimacy
for the war back. Last 3 years have been full of lessons in my
opinion.

On 14 February 2014 12:15, Matze Schmidt <matze.schmidt {AT} n0name.de> wrote:

> Hi Oersan,
>
> where is the so called greed and where is the stolen work, where is
> the union that negotiates the price for intelligent labor and where is
> this global collective intelligence that deems itself as the
> intelligence of the global?
 <...>

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