Rob Myers on Sun, 27 Jul 2014 10:06:25 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> paying users for their data |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 24/07/14 02:29 AM, Felix Stalder wrote: > > Now this is obviously the roughest of ballpark estimates you can > make -- and I would be happy to see a better one -- but on the face > of it, it seems to indicate that viewing one personal data as an > economic asset is really a lousy idea, "In as much as they constitute fixed capital, algorithms such as Google's Page Rank and Facebook's Edgerank appear 'as a presupposition against which the value-creating power of the individual labour capacity is an infinitesimal, vanishing magnitude'.( Marx 1973: 694) and that is why calls for individual retributions to users for their 'free labor' are misplaced. It is clear that for Marx what needs to be compensated is not the individual work of the user, but the much larger powers of social cooperation thus unleashed and that this compensation implies a profound transformation of the grip that the social relation that we call the capitalist economy has on society." http://quaderni.sanprecario.info/2014/02/red-stack-attack-algorithms-capital-and-the-automation-of-the-common-di-tiziana-terranova/ > no matter how you slice it. If a person's personal data is economically valuable to the degree required for it to be anything more than a negligible source of passive income, the rest of their life(style) will be less workerish and more megastarish. If people want minimum wage for Tweeting then I want minimum wage plus benefits for reading their arguments. Facebook-workerism is creepy. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT0zxpAAoJECciMUAZd2dZ2qMH/ApHQTqV99A+g0M7hqZW8WoR 9ZSxlnFrRSbRSArtUm9r5izacZsxsOyhm2AE8eFg83l933ZPLiMB7tNOgU31cETs p913/CV0qLYBYfptaSFSbL7qYadDt9eSlljtSZRTWZw0MAXYaPAoxRZmo5RrxwY/ 6vjoVEVvivP9bZHRsQL0VrL8PtI1N2HV1PjhqqA33Jc1xQx2QIY8fU5kGJcHnpIN teC0Ps2L3xvNb+4bTbpc3rPpGGx1d7XUk/cTiw++4uLb2K2rtHTmA2ko9g0G0+/o LrEBRQ6cEBUeXoU6XZKBN4WwoVPebCSm9kyBRKmCeuGSg5TY/bmyordeLH2Byv8= =r8ML -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org