Re: <nettime> Crisis 2.0 - the political turn

[Eric Kluitenberg <epk@xs4all.nl>]

Thanks Brian and Sebastian for a timely and well considered text and
response.

I think the problem with people like Joschka is that they have become so
embroiled in the existing political systems that they cannot think
outside them anymore.

What is needed here is a ???rupture???, one that can open up a space for
alternatives / alternative political designs. How to bend this towards
what could broadly speaking be described as a ???progressive political
agenda??? is a big and difficult question, but it is one that we must
start to answer given the severity of what we are facing.  (by ???we???
I mean collectively as inhabitants of planet earth / 'subjects of
Gaia???(?) )

I still think Spain is the most interesting country right now to watch
in terms of radical experiments in political design.

Draw out your sketch-books!

bests,
Eric

> On 11 Jan 2015, at 17:55, sebastian@rolux.org wrote:
> 
> Needless to say that the same Joschka Fischer, on December 29 in a column
> for the Austrian "Standard" titled "Greek Fever, European Disease" [1]
> (which may be a rehashed version of the text you're quoting from), wrote
> the following:
 <...>


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