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Re: <nettime> artfcity: Turbulence.org Going Offline
morlockelloi on Wed, 25 May 2016 15:25:33 +0200 (CEST)

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Re: <nettime> artfcity: Turbulence.org Going Offline

That's what I had in mind - if the search results/curated lists in themselves have tangible value, then there has to be some mechanism that prevents those lists from simply being published for free (after the initial sale.) In this case it seems to be the legal aspect - no one wants to be found in possession of these.

So now we have the situation that the digitized content can be monetized either if (1) it is distributed by the one of 5-6 monopolies, or (2) it is illegal. There is little in-between.

As majority authors are not tapped by monopolies for sourcing, I wonder if they could somehow illegalize their work to make it sellable? In other words, is there a way to turn the writing and other creative acts into cocaine, from the legal viewpoint?

I'll skip the list deal :)

BTW, note that one way to really 'write in private' is to use hardware bought for cash while not carrying cellphone, connect to the network in a crowded public space, without carrying cellphone or credit cards, send one message through the Tor relays, from one throwaway mail account to another, and then pulverize the hardware. Gets expensive after a while. Postal letters are a bit simpler, just don't use nearby mail boxes, wear bunny suit when handling paper, and print with a single-use printer paid for by cash while not carrying a cellphone. Of course, in all cases the message must be made resistant to stylometry, so use something like Anonymouth on your original input (https://github.com/psal/jstylo)

On 5/24/16, 1:38, Jaromil wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2016, morlockelloi {AT} yahoo.com wrote:

Is there evidence for this? Any existing service where users pay
curators for links/search results?

you'll have to take my word for this, because I'm not going to send
links: these places are mostly deemed as "illegal", but the thing is
BIG and underground especially after the demise of piratebay.

if you REALLY want a list then write me in private, but beware I'll
require a trade for this information and finally get to know your real
identity! :^)


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