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Re: <nettime> the meaning of Macron (short answer: Tocqueville in France
Alex Foti on Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:38:38 +0200 (CEST)


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Re: <nettime> the meaning of Macron (short answer: Tocqueville in France)


Dear Alexander and All,

your spot-on remarks (!) make me wonder about the future of social
democracy, something Castells pondered in a recent editorial:

mediterranean socialist parties seem on the verge of disappearing (e.g.
France, Greece, Spain), but what about SPD and other Northern European
social democracies? labor party in holland floundered, but in Sweden,
Denmark and elsewhere, wherever social-democracy didn't sell out to
neoliberalism and essentially defended collective bargaining and an
equalizing welfare state, social democratic parties could still have
political consensus, no? I guess the real litmus test will be the
German election and how the mother of all social democracies the SPD
will fare at the ballot with Schulz (hope he wins).

partisan ciaos!

lx

ps sorry for not writing mouvance right

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Alexander Bard <bardissimo {AT} gmail.com> wrote:

Excellent analysis, Alex!

But Emmanuel Macron should best be compared with Canada's Justin
Trudeau rather than any current American politician (though as a
pragmatist liberal he is ideologically in line with the Obamas, both
previous president Barack and possible forthcoming Michelle).
Pete Buttigieg is a name I would look out for as a possible American
equivalent to Trudeau in Canada and Macron in France. Let's see if
Buttigieg stays with the Democrats or goes independent in the next
election= . This is my stance: The Left will not regain power and
win elections unless it gets rid of its populist trash with faces
like Corbyn in the UK, Sanders in the U.S. and Malenchon in France.
Charming and clever Malenchon did lose to both Le Pen and Macron in
the most leftist-friendly country in Europe. And I understand why.
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