Andrew Libby via Nettime-tmp on Fri, 14 Jul 2023 22:27:33 +0200 (CEST) |
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I also want to stay on the list. Mods, please don't take me off. Andrew > I'm a lurker on the list, perhaps inclined to be more active as global > cultural politics grows more heated and weird. I'm making sure here to > register my activity so that I won't be excluded. I currently have > presence on Twitter, Bluesky, Mastodon, Micro.blog and a few other less > likely candidates, visiting all and looking for the right neighborhood to > settle into. But there's always email... > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 3:44â?¯AM Bruce Sterling via Nettime-tmp < > nettime-tmp@mail.ljudmila.org> wrote: > >> It's rare for me to harangue the nettimers, but I'm very pro-nettime, so >> I'm going to seize this opportunity to send mail to "ljudmila.org," if >> only to show that I don't want to be pruned from the list. >> >> I'm up in the Balkan mountains this season, where I discovered that a >> shortwave radio that must be 40 years old still functions. This >> discovery >> gave me a lot of the same moral comfort that I derive from nettime. >> Short-wave radio, it's not for everybody, but some people have 'em. >> >> After all, what else is there: Twitter? Sort of. Maybe. For a while. >> >> "All my followers are accumulated social capital that seem to have been >> rendered near worthless by algorithmic deflation," the author laments: >> >> https://www.eugenewei.com/blog/2023/7/6/how-to-blow-up-a-timeline >> >> Bruce Sterling >> >> >> >> >> On 11 Jul 2023, at 5:29 PM, John Preston via Nettime-tmp < >> nettime-tmp@mail.ljudmila.org> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Here is a longform summary of the synchronous meeting held today. >> >> There is general agreement to move to servus.at as the new host for the >> mailing list. They have about 2000 email accounts and a few hundred >> mailing >> lists so there are no concerns about management or scale. >> >> We talked about problems with bots, and they are currently working on a >> solution. >> >> After the move, the intention for signup process seems to be to keep it >> the >> same as it is now: users have to confirm their email via a link, and >> then >> be >> manually approved by a moderator. We think this is currently scalable, >> effective >> for managing spam, and gives mod team a feel for "who's coming and >> going", >> which >> is nice to know. >> >> We expect the move to take a couple of weeks, and there was some >> discussion >> about when is a good time to do this, given it's summer now. Eventually >> the >> archive and website will move as well, but probably that will happen >> after >> the >> new list is established. >> >> An initial pool of new moderators is now being formed and I think people >> will >> meet again soon to organise this. I think Jordan, Christian, and Menno >> expressed >> interest in joining the new mod squad. >> >> We also talked about pruning the subscriber list and figuring out how >> best >> to >> coordinate the move. This is an open question for the mod team to figure >> out >> what to do, but there were suggestions of using the invitation function >> on >> the >> new list to send out invites to everyone with activity in the last year, >> as a >> way to make sure the most active members are able to migrate >> effectively, >> and >> find a balance with just resubscribing lots of people who maybe don't >> want >> to >> be on the list. >> >> There was brief discussion about using the nettime.org domain name for >> the >> mailing list, and this is still an open question. Ted would like to >> maintain >> ownership for now and act as a guarantor, since it also points to other >> services >> like our website and the Mastodon instance [1]. Overall there did not >> seem >> to >> be much concern either way in terms of the mailing list, as we expect >> host >> moves to be few and far between. >> >> We also talked about the role of moderation on the list, and making sure >> this is >> also about creating energy in the list, and bringing new people into the >> space. >> Ted pointed out that diversity is an issue for nettime, as the >> homogeneity >> has >> both allowed the list to last for a long time, but also caused it to >> "ossify". >> >> Vesna had some good suggestions for organising small meetups and remote >> hubs, >> and we talked about arranging meetings at in person events like Ars >> Electronica >> and Transmediale. Also we said these should be publicised so we are >> making >> nettime an open space that new people can get involved in, regardless of >> if they >> like mailing lists or want to be part of the list. >> >> I also raised the idea of doing more events on-list and off-list, such >> as >> a >> 'show and tell' thread where people can just talk about what they're >> working on >> at the moment, or having coffee calls where people can have a chat and >> get >> to >> know other people in the community. Someone also mentioned the idea of >> inviting >> people not on the list to write guest posts, which I like because it >> grows >> the >> community and allows us to explore the use of a mailing list as a >> publication >> platform as well as just a space for connecting and discussing. >> >> Probably there is a bunch of stuff I missed because I got distracted >> halfway >> through, and then had to leave early, but I hope this is a useful >> summary >> for >> the list! â?¤ >> >> [1] I actually missed that we have a Mastodon instance! It's at >> <https://tldr.nettime.org/> if anyone is interested ð??? >> >> Thanks, >> John (they/them) >> >> # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission >> # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, >> # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets >> # more info: >> https://mail.ljudmila.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-tmp >> # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org >> # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: >> >> >> # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission >> # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, >> # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets >> # more info: >> https://mail.ljudmila.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-tmp >> # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org >> # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: >> > > > -- > Jon Lebkowsky (@jonl) > Cofounder and Cohost, Plutopia News Network <https://plutopia.io> > Website <https://weblogsky.com> | Twitter <http://twitter.com/jonl> | > LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jonlebkowsky> | Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/jonlebkowsky> | Tumblr > <http://weblogsky.tumblr.com/> | Wikipedia > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Lebkowsky> > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: > https://mail.ljudmila.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-tmp > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: https://mail.ljudmila.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-tmp # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: