Francis Nowak via nettime-l on Tue, 27 Feb 2024 14:39:02 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> nettime-l Digest, Vol 8, Issue 14 |
There's also an organized kind of intimidation, practiced and taught at university, where how 'timid' you should be before choosing a topic or making a statement is mapped exactly to the hierarchy - and only people high up in the pile are allowed to do anything except work that resembles a very small sub-entry in some giant imaginary encyclopedia (with titles like, ' Determination of ignition temperature of municipal solid waste for understanding surface and sub-surface landfill fire', and so on). Then, there's the experience of logging on to some well-established forum or network, being the 'FNG', and getting some kind of hazing, as a sort of expression of innate conservatism baked into a really hard, irradiated form by the unforgiving waves of online trolling. I guess the last kind of intimidation is a sort of machine-intimidation, where you get relentlessly blocked and banned from whatever platform you are on, because you're in a statistical blob on the billion-dimensional plot of user profiles that happens to give the hegemonic politics coniptions. I think I like the first two more than the last. On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 12:00 PM <nettime-l-request@lists.nettime.org> wrote: > Send nettime-l mailing list submissions to > nettime-l@lists.nettime.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.servus.at/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nettime-l-request@lists.nettime.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nettime-l-owner@lists.nettime.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of nettime-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. How to exclude posts from archiving (with solution) / was: > Nettime Listening Post (Christian Pietsch) > 2. Re: 24hr UKRAiNATV Live Stream Today to Commemorate Two Years > of Full-Scale War (Geert Lovink) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 12:46:49 +0100 > From: Christian Pietsch <kabelsalat@mailbox.org> > To: nettime-l@lists.nettime.org > Subject: <nettime> How to exclude posts from archiving (with solution) > / was: Nettime Listening Post > Message-ID: <Zdx6KffHDJDtMZz4@localhost> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Dear nettimers, > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 09:47:06AM +0100, Christian Swertz via nettime-l > wrote: > > > One thing that is missing from David's recap was an aspect raised about > > > the intimidation factors ( also related to the Silence themes of late > ), > > > > Do you assume that the nettime-l archive is an intimidation factor and > thus > > prohibits people to post unusual or provocative ideas since they could be > > attacked for that later with reference to the archive? As far as I see, > this > > cannot be denied. Even if the archive itself is certainly not the crucial > > problem (all subscribers get all the mails anyway), this could be the > > expression of a larger social problem. And I fully agree that this > problem > > is obviously connected to power dynamics. > > Perhaps this is a good opportunity to remind everyone that e-mail > authors can indeed deny archiving by including the e-mail header > ?X-No-Archive: Yes? [1]. Hardly anyone knows this, and even fewer > people know how to accomplish this, but there is help [2, 3]. This > mailing list runs on Mailman, a software that honours this header. > > Younger people in particular seem to enjoy the concept of > self-destructing messages. Technically, this is often just fiction > because these messages are never really deleted and get included in > backups anyway. However, it's a fact that people use this feature. It > has been built into Mastodon, too. Users of our instance find it here > [4]. It's quite a sophisticated implementation that can be configured > to keep toots matching certain conditions such as popularity. > > I realise that when people call Nettime intimidating, they probably > refer to more than just technical aspects. The sheer length of posts > can be overwhelming, as has been observed before. I am sure it has > been brought up that having time to read lenghty e-mails is quite a > privilege. Let alone responding to them in writing. For instance, I > currently do not have an academic job but a technical one, and this > means that I have to finish this e-mail before my lunch break is over. > The fact that some members have academic titles might be intimidating, > too. > > Cheers, > C: > > References > ---------- > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-No-Archive > [2] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Custom_headers > [3] > https://www.lifewire.com/arbitrary-custom-heading-email-thunderbird-1173089 > [4] https://tldr.nettime.org/statuses_cleanup > > -- > Christian Pietsch, Bielefeld, Germany > https://suma-ev.social/@christian > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 833 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.servus.at/pipermail/nettime-l/attachments/20240226/da3b10d9/attachment-0001.sig > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 22:11:23 +0100 > From: Geert Lovink <geert@xs4all.nl> > To: nettime-l <nettime-l@lists.nettime.org> > Subject: Re: <nettime> 24hr UKRAiNATV Live Stream Today to Commemorate > Two Years of Full-Scale War > Message-ID: <17A8686D-2FDA-4DB2-A057-6068A5E9D36D@xs4all.nl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > and here the temp. file on twitch of the 25hr URKAiNATV webcast from > Krakow, Kyiv, Budapest and Amsterdam: > https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2071725623 > > > On 24 Feb 2024, at 10:31 am, Geert Lovink via nettime-l < > nettime-l@lists.nettime.org> wrote: > > > > Dear nettimers, you?re all welcome to join today: > > > > HYBRID TOGETHERNESS: MAKING BREAD > > > > ? live webcasting from Krakow and Kyiv? > > > > LIVE WEBSITE TODAY: https://ukrainatv.streamart.studio/ LINKTREE: > https://linktr.ee/ukrainatv > > > > (with INC/VOID live contribution from Amsterdam between 2.30-3.30PM CET, > plus premiere: live stream from the Budapest/Intermedia Dept.) > > > > Nice to meet you, where have you been? > > > > I could show you incredible things > > > > Magic, madness, heaven, sin > > > > Saw you there and I thought? > > > > This is an announcement and open call > > > > We call for your attention, solidarity, access, and a new beginning > > > > This is a call about ?V? (with double dots above) ? Victory, Vitality, > Vojna! We reclaim the symbol ?V? from the Russian army; it?s also about > Vesna, Vagina, or Video x audio experimental stream-art hybrid > togetherness? More life, more hope, more research, more energy (green and > pink ones)? And a new, FIFTH (V!) season of UKRAiNATV is born. > > > > As well as the European Stream Art Network emerging around us. > > > > Stay tuned, stay with us, SLAY with Ukraine! > > > > * * * > > > > 24.02.24 marks the second anniversary of the outbreak of full-scale war > in Ukraine. The demons of war ravage our bodies, minds, memories, and daily > lives. But we do not succumb to mourning; we stride pinkly towards green! > We blend narratives, languages, signals, and colours. We bake bread from > Ukrainian and Polish flour despite divisions, borders, and particular, > selfish interests. Once again, we create an open community, to which we > invite? > > > > WE INVITE you to OUR new-born STREAM-ART NETWORK of inter-connected > studios and activities in KRAKOW, BUDAPEST, KYIV and AMSTERDAM? > > > > WE INVITE you to the StreamArtStudio/UKRAiNATV in Krakow at 23A Berka > Joselewicza. > > > > We have a RICH program of concerts, live acts, performances, > discussions, and workshop activities for you. And also ? simply ? a safe > space to spend this time together connecting with Kyiv, Amsterdam, > Budapest, Lviv, New York, Trondheim, Shostka, Pozna?, Warsaw, and other > places? > > > > WE INVITE you to the open VIDEO NINJA channel: where you can join > actively, dialogically? > > > > WE INVITE you to all OUR and OUR PARTNERS? channels on Twitch, yt, fb, > ig, and on our new website (see QR code with all links) > > > > WE INVITE you to contribute to the fundraiser: > https://pomoc.pl/ukrainatv > > > > Partners: INC/VOID Amsterdam, ASP KRK, Fundacja 36,6, Galeria Opcja, > Intermedia dept. @Hungarian University of Art, Collider / Carbon Community > Kyiv, Hello Tekno Kyiv. > > -- > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > > # more info: https://www.nettime.org > > # contact: nettime-l-owner@lists.nettime.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > -- > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: https://www.nettime.org > # contact: nettime-l-owner@lists.nettime.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of nettime-l Digest, Vol 8, Issue 14 > **************************************** > -- # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: https://www.nettime.org # contact: nettime-l-owner@lists.nettime.org