Re: nettime: re: property and territory

[Pit Schultz <pit@contrib.de>]

Hi Ian, 

would you like to add something on Subvertigo, 
your group or so? can be standard 'more info'
just for representing interesting projects in
ZKP 2,  2-4 K, 20th of May?? or even
an expansion on the 'principles question below'..
however, hope you're well.

gruesse
-pit


At 01:19 04.05.1996 +1000, you wrote:
>> 
>> >content providers should make sure that they get paid properly if
>> >money is changing hands. 
>> 
>> I think it is time that 'cultural producers' get together and build 
>> their own networks and agencies. If one is open to give up copyright, 
>> one should fight against those making money out of it on the publisher
>> level, where at least there is nothing to pay any more
>
>I don't Know who sent this, or where the original posting came from but 
>I'd like to make some comments.
>
>In looking at issues of anti-copyright lately, I have constantly come up 
>against the question of the artist/content provider being ripped off.
>But unfortuately it is not that simple. Content providers do not fall 
>into a homogeneous group.  
>
>First there are professional "art workers": this includes independent 
>film and video makers, freelance graphic artists, writers, programmers, 
>etc, that depend on selling their content to make a living.
>Then there are political activists that want to get their message across 
>even if it means accepting no payment, or even paying, to do so.
>Then there are careerist artists who are willing to accept any form of 
>exploitation if it results in their own self advertising.
>And finaly those that create for the sheer pleasure of it.
>
>Just about every content provider is a mixture of all these extremes.  So 
>how do we go about ensuring that an equitable and non-exploitative policy 
>for the payment of artists be established, and for whom should it be for?
>
>Being part of a video performance collective (Subvertigo) with a message 
>to get across, I have encountered this dilema often.  A  dodgy 
>capitalist/mafia organisation  contacts us for a gig. Offers us a pitiful 
>amount of money in a situation where they are going to make a shitload of 
>money. But there is an audience of several thousand.... What do we do?
>
>e.
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# Pit Schultz, Kleine Hamburger Str. 15, 10117 Berlin, pit@contrib.de


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