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Re: [Nettime-nl] geen arabische namen op passagierslijsten ?
hiddenstair on Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:16:43 +0200 (CEST)


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Re: [Nettime-nl] geen arabische namen op passagierslijsten ?


The hijackers were found to have used fake passports
with other people's names on them. The passenger lists
published are ID'ed as partial lists. 
This implies merely that they're holding back the
names they think were used falsely -- not that there
were no Middle Eastern passengers on the flights.


 --- MauzZ <mauzz {AT} dds.nl> wrote: > En nu dan dit
bericht...
> 
>
http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2001-09/17/article11.shtml
> 
>                     Saudi Suspects in U.S. Attacks
>                           Were Not in the U.S.
> 
>                   RIYADH, Sept 17 (IslamOnline &
> News
>                   Agencies) - U.S. officials in
> Riyadh offered
>                   Abdul Rahman Said al-Omari an
> official apology
>                   in the presence of Saudi interior
> ministry
>                   officials for including his name
> among the list of
>                   suspects in the U.S. terrorist
> attacks, news
>                   agencies reported Monday.
> 
>                   Omari, a pilot with Saudi
> Airlines, told the Saudi
>                   daily Al-Watan that he was amazed
> to see his
>                   name on the FBI's list of suspects
> allegedly
>                   involved in the attacks on the
> Pentagon and
>                   World Trade Center Tuesday, Agence
>                   France-Presse (AFP) reported.
> 
>                   Omari said he returned to Saudi
> Arabia in early
>                   September after undergoing
> training for one
>                   year in the United States, AFP
> added.
> 
>                   Meanwhile, the mother of another
> Saudi man,
>                   also suspected in the September
> 11th attacks,
>                   said Monday that her son has been
> in
>                   Chechnya for two years with a
> relief committee
>                   operating in the tiny war-torn
> Muslim republic.
> 
>                   The mother of Ahmad Ibrahim
> al-Ghamdi told
>                   Al-Watan that her son had been
> studying
>                   engineering in the Saudi city of
> Mecca before
>                   departing for Chechnya, AFP
> reported.
> 
>                   Ibrahim, 20, the youngest child in
> a family of
>                   three sons and four daughters, had
> been in
>                   constant contact with his family
> from
>                   Chechnya, said his mother.
> 
>                   The father of Fayez Mohammad
> al-Shehri, yet
>                   another Saudi suspect, also told
> the daily that
>                   his son had also left for Chechnya
> two years
>                   ago with the relief committee.
> 
>                   "He was going with the relief
> committee," said
>                   Shehri's father, a school
> headmaster.
> 
>                   Notably, the preliminary lists of
> confirmed dead
>                   of American Airlines flights 11
> and 77 and
>                   United flight 175, released
> September 13th by
>                   U.K. daily The Guardian, did not
> include any
>                   Arab or Middle Eastern names.
> 
>                   According to The Guardian, some 81
>                   passengers and 11 crew members
> were on
>                   board when American Airlines
> flight AA11, en
>                   route from Boston to Los Angeles,
> crashed into
>                   the north tower of the World Trade
> Center.
> 
>                   This is the preliminary, partial
> list of passengers
>                   aboard the flight.
> 
>                   Crew
>                   Captain John Ogonowski
>                   First Officer Thomas McGuinness
>                   Barbara Arestegui
>                   Jeffrey Collman
>                   Sara Low
>                   Karen Martin
>                   Kathleen Nicosia
>                   Betty Ong
>                   Jean Roger
>                   Dianne Snyder
>                   Madeline Sweeney
> 
>                   Passengers
>                   Anna Allison
>                   David Angell
>                   Lynn Angell
>                   Seima Aoyama
>                   Myra Aronson
>                   Christine Barbuto
>                   Carol Bouchard
>                   Neilie Casey
>                   Jeffrey Coombs
>                   Tara Creamer
>                   Thelma Cuccinello
>                   Patrick Currivan
>                   Andrew Currygreen
>                   Brian Dale
>                   David Dimeglio
>                   Donald Ditullio
>                   Albert Dominguez
>                   Al Filipov
>                   Carol Flyzik
>                   Paul Friedman
>                   Karleton Fyfe
>                   Peter Gay
>                   Linda George
>                   Edmund Glazer
>                   Page Hackel Farley
>                   Peter Hashem
>                   Robert Hayes
>                   Edward Hennessy
>                   John Hofer
>                   Cora Holland
>                   Nicholas Humber
>                   John Jenkins
>                   Charles Jones
>                   Robin Kaplan
>                   Barbara Keating
>                   David Kovalcin
>                   N Janis Lasden
>                   Danny Lee
>                   Daniel Lewin
>                   Jeff Mladenik
>                   Antonio Montoya
>                   Laura Morabito
>                   Mildred Naiman
>                   Laurie Neira
>                   Renee Newell
>                   Jacqueline Norton
>                   Robert Norton
>                   Jane Orth
>                   Thomas Pecorelli
>                   Bernthia Perkins
>                   Sonia Puopolo
>                   David Retik
>                   Philip Rosenweig
>                   Richard Ross
>                   Heath Smith
>                   Douglas Stone
>                   Xavier Suarez
>                   James Trentini
>                   Mary Trentini
>                   Mary Wahlstrom
>                   Kenneth Waldie
>                   John Wenckus
>                   Candace Williams
>                   Christopher Zarba
> 
>                   Some 58 passengers and six crew
> members
>                   were on board when American
> Airlines flight
>                   AA77, en route from Washington
> Dulles to Los
>                   Angeles, crashed into the
> Pentagon, The
>                   Guardian reported. Again, no
> Arabic or Middle
>                   Eastern names appear on the list.
> 
>                   Crew
>                   Captain Charles Burlingame
>                   First Officer David Charlebois
>                   Michele Heidenberger
>                   Jennifer Lewis
>                   Kenneth Lewis
>                   Renee May
> 
>                   Passengers
>                   Paul Ambrose
>                   Yemen Betru
>                   MJ Booth
>                   Bernard Brown
>                   Suzanne Calley
>                   William Caswell
>                   Sarah Clark
>                   Asia Cottom
>                   James Debeuneure
>                   Rodney Dickens
>                   Eddie Dillard
>                   Charles Droz
>                   Barbara Edwards
>                   Charles Falkenberg
>                   Zoe Falkenberg
>                   Dana Falkenberg
>                   James Ferguson
>                   Budd Flagg
>                   Dee Flagg
>                   Richard Gabriel
>                   Ian Gray
>                   Stanley Hall
>                   Bryan Jack
>                   Steve Jacoby
>                   Ann Judge
>                   Chandler Keller
>                   Yvonne Kennedy
>                   Norma Khan
>                   Karen Kincaid
>                   Norma Langsteuerle
>                   Dong Lee
>                   Dora Menchaca
>                   Chris Newton
>                   Barbara Olson
>                   Ruben Ornedo
>                   Lisa Raines
>                   Todd Reuben
>                   John Sammartino
>                   Diane Simmons
>                   George Simmons
>                   Mari Rae Sopper
>                   Robert Speisman
>                   Leonard Taylor
>                   Sandra Teague
>                   Leslie Whittington
>                   John Yamnicky
>                   Vicki Yancey
>                   Shuyin Yang
>                   Yuguag Zheng
> 
>                   Some 56 passengers and nine
> crewmembers
>                   were on board when United flight
> 175, on route
>                   from Boston to Los Angeles,
> crashed into the
>                   south tower of the World Trade
> Center, The
>                   Guardian reported. No Arabic or
> Middle Eastern
>                   names appear here either.
> 
>                   Crew
>                   Captain Victor Saracini
>                   First Officer Michael Horrocks
>                   Robert J Fangman
>                   Amy N Jarret
>                   Amy R King
>                   Kathryn L Laborie
>                   Alfred G Marchand
>                   Michael C Tarrou
>                   Alicia N Titus
> 
>                   Passengers
>                   Alona Avraham
>                   Garnet Bailey
>                   Mark Bavis
>                   Graham Berkeley
>                   Klaus Bothe
>                   David Brandhorst
>                   Daniel Brandhorst
>                   John Cahill
>                   Christoffer Carstanjen
>                   John Corcoran
>                   Dorothy Dearaujo
>                   Gloria Debarrera
>                   Lisa Frost
>                   Lynn Goodchild
>                   Francis Grogan
>                   Carl Hammond
>                   Gerald Hardacre
>                   Eric Hartono
>                   James Hayden
>                   Roberta Jalbert
>                   Ralph Kershaw
>                   Heinrich Kimmig
>                   Brian Kinney
>                   Maclovia Lopez
>                   Marianne Macfarlane
>                   Juliana Mccourt
>                   Ruth Mccourt
>                   Wolfgang Menzel
>                   Shawn Nassaney
>                   Marie Pappalardo
>                   Patrick Quigley
>                   Jesus Sanchez
>                   Kathleen Shearer
>                   Robert Shearer
>                   Jane Simpkin
>                   Brian Sweeney
>                   Tim Ward
>                   William Weems
> 
>                   Meanwhile, an official source at
> Saudi Airlines
>                   announced that Amer Kenfer, a
> Saudi aviation
>                   engineer whose name appeared on
> the list of
>                   passengers on board the United
> Airlines flight,
>                   en route from Boston to Los
> Angeles, is
>                   currently in Saudi Arabia.
> 
>                   Kenfer called Saudi Airlines from
> his home in
>                   Mecca once he heard his name
> announced as
>                   one of the passengers on the
> United flight,
>                   confirming that another passenger
> must have
>                   made use of the fact that
> foreigners in the U.S.
>                   are not asked to show their
> passports on
>                   domestic flights and had in this
> way used
>                   Kenfer's name.
> 
>                   The official Saudi source added
> that another
>                   Saudi suspect whose name was also
> included
>                   on the list of passengers who
> boarded the
>                   same United flight, Amir Bokhari -
> a Saudi
>                   Airlines pilot - had died two
> years ago during
>                   aviation training exercises.
> 
> 
>
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