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>Fiind barbat raspunsul la aceasta intrebare este nonsens...

dar un copil nu este nonsens si nici o mama nu exista intr-un `vacuum`



>nu este necesar sa intri in sfera abstractizarii masculine, pentru a pune in
>discutii
>o experienta atat de intima cat si reala, tocmai aici apare problema,
>neverbalizand
>totul este consens instaurat de abstractizarea vietii , realizata de barbati...

barbatii nu exista intr-un `vaccum`
acei barbati au fost crescuti si de mame



>si realitatea continua, are doua caracteritici nevoia imediata, adica legi
>drepturi optiuni,
>asta fiind chiar in politica barbatesca si patriarhala ro care ar trebui
>schimbata

nici o problema - dar ceea ce exista s-a creat peste secole. gresesti ca si
comunistii [si maj. artistilor etc]
daca crezi ca poti sa planifici in mod constient o schimbare care este
intr-adevar `sustainable`




>dar are si o latura profunda, existentiala, aici vor fi discutiile, in ce
>masura statul
>trebuie sa intre in sfera privata, si cu ce pret, ce se pierde in momentul in
>care viata
>ta intima devine o problema de stat, pana unde lasi  controlul staului sa
>intre in viata
>ta... esti discpus sa faci asta...


de acord. si filmul si statul sint abstractii.




>it is not necesary to enter the abstract male world to talk about a very
>intimate and also real experience...

in acord. one may certainly discuss such intimate matters in films yet to
sustain that it presents reality is obscene.




>Filmul  prezinta situatia reala a femeilor mame din Romania.

in other words if you remove this line and i have no objections.


the subject you have undertaken is very real + intimate which is excellent
+ desirable.
but - not your film nor any other can present reality.
if you sustain this you are playing into the often encountered masculine
abstraction.

your film as all others \re\presents an _abstraction of reality
particularly for such an intimate matter.





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