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| nettime's_roving_reporter <nettime@bbs.thing.net>
| [rohrpost] FBI Raids Indy Media Center
| "Ben" <justbenjamin@hotmail.com>
| Fw: FBI raids Seattle journalist collective, delivers gag order
| "Ben" <justbenjamin@hotmail.com>
| Fw: IMC responds to post about FBI visit and court gag order
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| Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:09:27 -0100
| Subject: [rohrpost] FBI Raids Indy Media Center
| From: nettime's_roving_reporter <nettime-l@bbs.thing.net>
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| http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0424-04.htm
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| From: "Ben" <justbenjamin@hotmail.com>
| Subject: Fw: FBI raids Seattle journalist collective, delivers gag
order
| Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:11:23 +0100
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| woah
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| from: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
| to: <politech@politechbot.com>
| cc: <paulshukovsky@seattle-pi.com>;
<editorial@seattle.indymedia.org>;
| <news@seattle.indymedia.org>
| sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:12 PM
| subject: FC: FBI raids Seattle journalist collective, delivers gag
order
|
|
| > This was reportedly posted on then removed from
vermont.indymedia.org:
| > >"There is a report of FBI Officers currently located within the
Seattle
| > >IMC demanding the location of the person who's name is the
registered name
| > >of indymedia.org. Apparently, they have an arrest warrant for
Jonathan Jay
| > >because of a supposed threat against President Bush on the
Montreal IMC
| > >site. They are making threats that the IMC is not supposed to
send out
| > >*any* emails regarding this issue, according to the warrant.
However,
| > >this, according to the IMC lawyer, is Prior Restraint, which is
| > >unconstitutional. The closest story mentioning Bush on the
Montreal site
| > >is the following: story mentioning bush Please look to
| > >seattle.indymedia.org as well as other sites for updates on this
situation."
| >
| > The name "Jonathan Jay" does indeed appear in the "whois"
database:
| >
http://www.networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?STRING=indymedia.o
rg
| >
| > But each Independent Media Center is a collective that includes
hundreds of
| > loosely-affiliated journalists and activists. Holding the whois
registrant
| > responsible for what appears on the site -- if that is what
happened --
| > makes little sense. He may have simply donated the domain name
years ago,
| > or may be no longer involved in the publication of the site.
| >
| > Also, the gag order -- the sketchy little we know of it -- seems
remarkably
| > broad. Why shouldn't a news organization be able to report on a
raid of its
| > office?
| >
| > Background:
| > http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,38286,00.html
| > http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=01/04/24/1857245
| >
| > -Declan
| >
| > *********
| >
| > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:07:54 -0700
| > From: Warren Cowley <wdcowley@earthlink.net>
| > To: declan@well.com
| > Subject: Indymedia raided by the FBI and gag order placed on
discussion of
| > the issue
| >
| > Declan,
| > Please sound the alarm. The FBI has chosen another target. They
raided the
| > Indymedia center on sat 04/21/01.
| > In the process they have placed a gag order on indymedia.
| > the story is here :
| > http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0424-04.htm
| > and
| > here:
| > http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=36185&group=webcast
| >
| > Thanks
| > A very concerned citizen
| >
| > *********
| >
| > http://seattlep-i.nwsource.com/local/19980_security24.shtml
| >
| > FBI raids media center
| > Stolen security plan for Quebec meeting was put on Internet
here
| >
| > Tuesday, April 24, 2001
| >
| > By PAUL SHUKOVSKY
| > SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER
| >
| > Security plans intended to protect Western leaders attending a
trade
| > summit in Quebec City were stolen from a car there over the
weekend
| > and posted, hours later, on a Seattle-based Web site,
authorities said
| > yesterday.
| >
| > On Saturday night, FBI agents raided the offices of the
Independent
| > Media Center in downtown Seattle, seizing computer-log
records,
| > according to federal sources.
| >
| > No arrests have been made.
| >
| > Center spokeswoman Sherry Herndon said she and other staff
have been
| > told "not to talk about" the incident under threat of being
held in
| > contempt of court.
| >
| > She referred inquiries to attorney Bob Goodman of the Center
for
| > Constitutional Rights in New York City, who also declined
comment.
| >
| > He said the court order that was served on the IMC "contains a
fairly
| > broad gag order; therefore, we cannot talk."
| >
| > ...
| >
| > No mention of the FBI raid could be found yesterday on the IMC
Web
| > site. But the organization's home page carried a boldface note
| > stating, "Everything is fine at the Seattle IMC. We will keep
you
| > posted on any further developments."
| >
| > ...
| >
| > *********
| >
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| From: "Ben" <justbenjamin@hotmail.com>
| Subject: Fw: IMC responds to post about FBI visit and court gag
order
| Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:26:50 +0100
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| from: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
| to: <politech@politechbot.com>
| cc: <micah@indymedia.org>; <paulshukovsky@seattle-pi.com>;
| <editorial@seattle.indymedia.org>; <news@seattle.indymedia.org>
| sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:51 PM
| subject: FC: IMC responds to post about FBI visit and court gag
order
|
| > **********
| >
| > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:30:23 -0700
| > From: Micah Anderson <micah@indymedia.org>
| > To: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
| > Cc: wdcowley@earthlink.net
| > Subject: Re: FBI raids Seattle journalist collective, delivers gag
order
| > Message-ID: <20010424123023.E1873@riseup.net>
| > References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010424143049.02037e60@mail.well.com>
| > Mime-Version: 1.0
| > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
| > Content-Disposition: inline
| >
| > ARG! You have no idea how much I laughed when I read the Seattle
PI story,
| > it is so grossly inaccurate it HURTS. Don't worry, the IMC has not
been
| > raided, nothing has been taken, the FBI did visit, but DAMN people
freak out
| > about the most random rumors... Please make it known that this PI
article is
| > so full of errors it cannot be trusted ("Sherry" - they can't even
spell her
| > name right), we are speaking with the PI for a retraction and
corrections.
| >
| > Micah
| > IMC
| >
| > **********
| >
| > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:45:55 -0700
| > From: Micah Anderson <micah@indymedia.org>
| > To: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
| > Subject: Re: FBI raids Seattle journalist collective, delivers gag
order
| >
| > the imc has been served with an order, the contents of which are
covered by
| > a protective order issued by the court, which essentially means we
can't
| > talk about it. we're consulting with our lawyer in nyc as well as
local
| > counsel, both of which are avidly opposed to any violation of the
bill of
| > rights.
| >
| > the situation is under control and we'll be passing along
information as
| > soon as we are able, once we are able to not purjure ourselves due
to the
| > gag order, all will be clear, but the IMC has not been compromised
in any
| > way, no RAID happened. We had a visit, but it was strictly to
serve the
| > order. It is in no way as bad as it sounds.
| >
| > Trust me, the full information will be available when we can make
it so, but
| > at this point we have to make sure that we aren't harming
ourselves by
| > revealing. It is simply a matter of making sure we don't harm the
IMC as an
| > entity by purjuring ourselves before the court. Unfortunately this
sort of
| > silence and secrecy is what makes the left paranoid (rightly so,
see the
| > FTAA text for a good example), and claims to be made that may or
may not be
| > true. Our highest priority is to make it so we can set the record
straight
| > and not harm ourselves by doing so, but it is safe to say that
things are
| > just fine, there is no need for fear, and definately no need for
rumors.
| >
| > Micah
| >
| > On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
| > > So what *did* happen, to set the record straight?
| > >
| > > -Declan
| >
| > **********
| >
| >
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