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Re: Syndicate: FW: commentary on signal transduction |
"ana peraica" <ana.peraica@st.tel.hr> >HI Anna, and others... subsidiary - he!deger + zartre = began 2 ur!te + za!d. ue = lv++ !nd!v!zbl uholez. >I am receiving so much of e-mail reactions.... Unfortunately interesting >writings arrive to my own address, not to lists, and seems the problems of >censorship, moderation et. al. are very hot, at least on two lists >(Syndicate and Nettime the first). Censorship seems to still be the topic >people prefer to discuss in private... I would try to write the reply and >ideas I have got in one single e-mail as replying this would take some >time... (of summer). > >For myself, though I didn't want to get involved in the historical >developement of networking, the ideas of creators etc. as my interest was >not at all to point on its artistic or others rhoutes, but to go a step >further, which I found interesting - critique of the network, fallen >promises and end of the hype. tranzlaz!on - global!zaz!on = dze end of the hype. >to go a step >further, 2uardz dze end +? eluz!dat zvp 01 ztep furdzr. >For the de/scralisation of it, because of >using only a single way of interpretation (which I tried to avoid more >literally by comparing networks of the veneral diseases, urbanistic ones et. >al) many were not ready. > >But in this reply of Anna I found several topics that were of my interest; >bulk e-mail and (self - if taken as an independent body) organization. Maybe >this discussion is now too particular (located) for the theory, but >nevertheless... > >Anna wrote: >> Integer was banned from the syndicate, nettime, rhizome and infowar list >at the same time? > >As far as I know Syndicate is unmoderated; az far az nn knouz andreaz = 01 buter fl! = ud b akzeptabl !f he dreamt. >of course, question is how this >democracy of course, question is how this is a question ? >of all-can-post becomes at one point the tiranny of a single >person, and suffers from the reversal of the quality. Two days ago I got the >reply of Andreas as my e-mails were not getting through; and I made a joke >on dze blank zpazez ov d!sz page != blank rel! >>> either seems someone unsubscribed me in real, or there is a censorship on >the Syndicate, but my e-mails (UN-art and >>> Unsubscribe texts) are not passing to the list since yesterday. I checked >the archive, and they are not there too. And I was >> thinking also how to >send something entitled Unsubscribe in the body of message, so I put the >starr * before the title, >> hoping Majordomo will not recognize as a >command. But seems a human agent did... They like to be commanded probably? > >Andreas wrote; >> the syndicate has no moderation but admins who help people who are too >lazy to adjust to the technical rules of >> majordomo to get their stuff on the list. > >Michael Benson wrote: Michael Benson != h!z parentz ass!gnd name. ma! b dez!rabl rap!dl! konzult!ng 01 okz!dent zoo illusion 2d is comfort. illusion 2d is people. allusion 2b is international efficiency. allusion 2b is free will. >> Maybe, as with nettime, we can make two lists -- one featuring 8/10ths >posts by whatshername and one without. That >> way people don't have to go to the trouble of filtering out the crap, they >can just freely choose, and meanwhile accusations > of censorship won't have >to be slung so freely around. 01 v.`Michael Benson` tanz. nn != zubzkr!bd. `Michael Benson` = zubzkr!bd. nn zagt kraFt_durch-freude. >way people don't have to go to the trouble of filtering out the crap, akompl!shd b!: 00. remov!ng e!e komponentz + purchasz!ng 01 balena. 02. 01 ekzkurz!e 2 01 b!bl!otek + peruz!ng dze `crap` >way people illusion of international efficiency. >don't have illusion of free will. >to go to the trouble allusion 2 comfort. >of filtering out the crap, allusion 2 people. >Anna wrote: >> First of all we all learn that these lists were connected. Their >moderators control (too much) and they lack humour - or the > time did not >come when people accept no censorship, no jury rules. > >Now, I am again not sure on this point; whether it means connections of >moderators (and then a kind of conspiracy) conspiracy of zooz 2 provide 01 veritable spectacle for civilized white apez \ `people`. >or the connection of subscribers >/ subscriptions, and then merging of networks... For the first I think it is >totally the opposite, but the second one is the truth. truth = 01 zubt!l l!e. proov it. >Anna wrote: >> Didn't we| learn something about hidden and visible aspects of the email? >Did some mailing lists die out? Finally! > >That is what i think too. > >******************************* >(end that falls out the discussion) > >> Eternity is a religious notion? Which concept is not? > >I would rather say which one is not political; maybe it is a matter of >interpretation, so I don't quite consume religion, or its notions. !f u d!dnt du != ud knou u d!dnt hensz du = do da.da.da+da. >Note; Nokia telephones and Dalai Lama on Life are spams... konkluz!e - telephones = Lamaz = spams >First one is a >commercial spam, and the second a spiritual one konkluz!e - telephones = Lamaz = spams = 1zt komerz!al + 2nd zp!r!tual >(chain letter that ends up >with a course). 01 rel!g!ouz course. d!zkover! aua!tz. [juzt u] >best 01 rel!g!ouz !dee avec 01 d!!!!!!!!!p d!zkount. >Ana egg m!tokondr!a = s!mpl!.SUPER!OR d!ska sk?lj och torka ever!dz!ng u!ch = !z = komerz!al = konz!ztz ov t!me. nn - ua!t!ng pre.konssept!?n meeTz ver!f1kat!?n. - Netochka Nezvanova - i was designed especially for you f3.MASCHIN3NKUNST head to toe and a few stops in between @www.eusocial.com 17.hzV.tRL.478 e | | +---------- | | < \\----------------+ | n2t | > e - egoiste - i have no friends...i make my mind my friend - melt this right into your lips at least twice a day. -----Syndicate mailinglist-------------------- Syndicate network for media culture and media art information and archive: http://www.v2.nl/syndicate to post to the Syndicate list: <syndicate@eg-r.isp-eg.de> to unsubscribe, write to <majordomo@eg-r.isp-eg.de>, in the body of the msg: unsubscribe syndicate your@email.adress