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>cage

nn haz releaszd 173 cdz dzat = !nfr!nge upon [cage.z]  2.3  [z!lansz]


>>> but the gimmick-art thing going on today, has no soul,
>>> no emotion, no depth, no communication.

= prez!zl!. = !t dzat makez !t .be au+au t!fl++


>>> but the gimmick-art thing going on today, has no soul,
>>> no emotion, no depth, no communication.

when humans listen to one person speaking.
read one page of print - much of what humans think they see or hear 
is supplied from personal memory.

whatever the brain looks at is really about 20% 
of signals from the outside world and 80% of old templates, filters, memories and beliefs 
about the world. 


konztataz!e +? fr!endl!.

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>Terrence;
>
>Really, An empty communication is as pure as the concept gets. I posted it in
>seriousness. There is true meaning to what i did, I consider it a very small
>but important gesture. I will contextualize further at a future site .
>
>Since ((o)) has posted his www.emptywebsite.com and is making agressive
>unprovoked attacks on my work I will parlay IMO ((o)) s approach is merely
>echoing other great works and is perhaps "the original webart empty gimmick". I
>mean he goes as far as even registering the site and putting a registered mark
>on it. How long did he wait so he could slip it on Rhizome? It is hilarious
>really.  His big mistake was dissing my truly serious empty e-mail art work on
>this list serve.
>
>Teo did ask for all forms of empty net art. ((o)) behaviour here is
>unprofessional and his invalidating is really creepy.
>
>ARTNATURAL
>
>
>
>
>Gustavo Barbosa wrote:
>
>> I agree...
>> Besides in Cage's, for instance, there was the whole issue about silence, is
>> there such thing and all that... probably not, so it still can be considered
>> a piece...
>> The digital media/world is much colder so yep, it's empty and that's it...
>> nothing more, nothing less, nothing else...
>> Well, that's what I think... at least now...
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: (((o))) <leegte@xs4all.nl>
>> To: <list@rhizome.org>
>> Sent: 08 November 2000 19:15
>> Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: empty net.art
>>
>> i'm afraid i'm not in favor of this approach.
>>
>> empty work is not just some rational gimmick,
>> "who can think of something to do with empty" kind of stuff.
>> you could maybe end at a minimal style of work as the only way out of
>> expressing your thoughts or feelings you've been gardening.
>> that's worth something.
>> but the gimmick-art thing going on today, has no soul,
>> no emotion, no depth, no communication.
>> and it's precisely that what makes good minimal work so beautifull.
>> it frightens you out of your wits, slams you on the floor, to let you start
>> crying,
>> or you walk out pissed off because some artist tried to wedge you out of
>> your
>> precious projected world, and apparently did a good job at it.
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Terrence Kosick
>>   To: (((o))) ; teo@teo-spiller.org
>>   Cc: list@rhizome.org
>>   Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 6:36 PM
>>   Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: empty net.art
>>
>>   empty mail art example;
>>   _________________________________________________________
>>   Subject:
>>            EMPTY
>>       Date:
>>            Wed, 06 Sep 2000 20:48:49 -0700
>>      From:
>>            Terrence Kosick <kosick@sprint.ca>
>>        To:
>>            list <list@rhizome.org>
>>
>>   _________________________________________________________
>>
>>   "(((o)))" wrote:
>>
>>     http://www.emptywebsite.com
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     From: "teo spiller" <teo.spiller@rzs-hm.si>
>>     To: "Rhizome" <list@rhizome.org>
>>     Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 1:27 PM
>>     Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: empty net.art
>>
>>     > We knew some practices of "empty" art pieces in 20 th century:
>>     >
>>     > the Cage's composition of 2 minutes and 53 seconds silence,  the
>>     exhibition
>>     > of empty canvases, the empty gallery instead of sculptures, the empty
>>     sheet
>>     > of paper instead of a poem, the book of empty sheets, etc, etc.
>>     >
>>     > but how would the "empty" net.art look like?
>>     >
>>     > Here are three examples (which is the right one):
>>     >
>>     > http://www.teo-spiller.org/empty1/
>>     > http://www.teo-spiller.org/empty2/
>>     > http://www.teo-spiller.org/empty3/
>>     >
>>     > You are welcome to find out more "empty" pieces and send the link of
>> it to
>>     > teo@teo-spiller.org
 



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