Lachlan Brown on Thu, 20 Dec 2001 22:41:01 +0100 (CET)


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[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> how do i know i am having a poem in cyberspace?




Don't know whether 'having a poem in 
cyberspace' differs much from 
having a poem, in text, image, moving 
image or sound. When you are having a 
poem, others know you are having a poem.

You are speaking otherwise in a familiar 
way.

There's no mistaking it.



Lachlan Brown

(416) 826 6937


> 
> 
> The Dawn
> 
> Lachlan Brown
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Osamar
> 
> 'riding horseback by night
> 
> hiding in caves by day'(AP)
> 
> fasting for Ramadan
> 
> a traveller
> 
> 
> 
> 113.1":    Say: I seek refuge in the 
> Lord of the dawn, 
> 
> 
> making 
> 
> his way into 
> 
> the global imaginary
> 
> with a presence more real
> 
> enduring 
> 
> than the global allied forces 
> 
> gathered against him
> 
> 
> 
> "113.2":    From the evil of what He has 
> created, 
> 
> 
> 
> America 
> 
> crafted at last
> 
> a beautiful disaster
> 
> her most lasting
> 
> image
> 
> 
> 
> "113.3":    And from the evil of the utterly 
> dark night when it comes, 
> 
> 
> 
> one thousand times 
> 
> one hundred thousand 
> 
> youths make witness
> 
> and memory 
> 
> to be with him
> 
> or to be like him
> 
> 
> 
> "113.4":    And from the evil of those who blow on knots,
> 
> 
> Osamar
> 
> 'riding horseback by night
> 
> resting in caves by day'(AP)
> 
> a traveller, fasting, 
> 
> resting the sleep 
> 
> of the innocent
> 
> beneath the thunder
> 
> over Khyber
> 
> on the frontier
> 
> between the West 
> 
> and the Rest
> 
> 
> 
> "113.5":    And from the evil of the envious
> when he envies
> 
> 
> 
> when it comes to memes
> 
> only the most fitting survive.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Lachlan Brown
> 
> To my Arab friends
> still held in detention 
> at the Immigration Canada Detention Centre
> Celebrity Inn
> Airport Road
> Mississauga
> Ontario
> 
> ‘mutoshushish’ ‘its complicated’ 
> 5 -12 -01
> 
>


> i need help.
>
> i'm studying modes of recognition of poetry.
>
> on the web, how do we recognize words used in language as poetry,
how
> do we know we are having a poem? 

>
> in web environments how do i tell if i've come across a poem? is it
> merely the same signs we use to recognize poetry in print and in
live
> performance, or are there unique recognition stimuli for
> web/cyber/new/digital/hypermedia poetry?
> do we need visual evidence of text or aural presence of text to be
> poetry in this medium?
>
>
> i would appreciate some thoughts on this
>
> cheers
> komninos
> --
> komninos zervos bsc(hons) ma(creative writing)
> http://www.gu.edu.au/ppages/K_Zervos
> Convenor
> CyberStudies major
> School of Arts
> Griffith University
> Gold Coast Campus
> PMB 50 Gold Coast Mail Centre
> Queensland 9726 Australia
> tel: +61 7 55528872
> fax: +61 7 55528141

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