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   Re: Sorry, there's no fee, c'mon it's just a link! -Media connection -          
     ecdysone@eusocial.com                                                           

   Re: <nettime> [2x] Sorry, there's no fee, c'mon it's just a link!               
     "Valentina Tanni" <valentina.tanni@iol.it>                                      

   Re: <nettime> [2x] Sorry, there's no fee, c'mon it's just a link!               
     "porculus" <porculus@wanadoo.fr>                                                



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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 03:12:47 +0200 (CEST)
From: ecdysone@eusocial.com
Subject: Re: Sorry, there's no fee, c'mon it's just a link! -Media connection -

 
 
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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:02:27 +0200
From: "Valentina Tanni" <valentina.tanni@iol.it>
Subject: Re: <nettime> [2x] Sorry, there's no fee, c'mon it's just a link!

Dear Amanda,

I agree with you. Artists should be paid when their work is exhibited. But
in this case we just offer some links in a book (the catalogue), we don't
exhibit nothing at all. Do you think that artists shoul be paid everytime
their website is linked?

Sincerely
Valentina Tanni

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From: <amanda@adelaidefestival.net.au>
To: <nettime-l@bbs.thing.net>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 2:54 AM
Subject: <nettime> [2x] Sorry, there's no fee, c'mon it's just a link!


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> Sorry for cross posting, but I thought this relevant to each of these
> lists...

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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:23:26 +0200
From: "porculus" <porculus@wanadoo.fr>
Subject: Re: <nettime> [2x] Sorry, there's no fee, c'mon it's just a link!

> This is a most interesting post given the number of lists that have
> recently been discussing curatorial practice in the area of new media,
> including net and web based work.  I, for one, have always been in favour
> of providing (at least a nominal - depending on the situation) fee for
> artists when their work is included in an exhibition context - it is,
> after all, contextualising work in an 'exhibition' context.  Just as you
> would pay a screening fee for any other form of screen based works - and
> particularly, as in this instance, when the curator is being paid a fee
> for putting the program together.  And do you think any of the other
> artists nominated for inclusion in the show would agree to exhibit without
> being paid a fee?!


well that stuff makers defend their work it's ordinary, they use of
argument that put the dicussion partner they have in akward position it's
sheer good politic, they try to trap him in compared their condition it's
absolutely "sport". this called into question one tries to improve his
image it's absolutely normal, but please..please... do somebody could
prevent him to dare to take such argument for himself "particularly, when
the curator is being paid a fee for putting the program together" as if it
is an aeternel truth ! or i would be forced to speak as 80's traders as
milken or goldsmith to their judges "have you just a small idea in which
world we live" it was an evident trap, and you fall in quite innocently,
and i couldn't see this another way as an non conscient ingenuous
cyniscism, and you know why ? for thousand reason but specially this one
for me cause due to your endlessy complacency to ruled about politic
posture of art and artiste blabla..and what? when it is question to speak
about elementary political consciousness, you dare to clown around as is
it due to your 75 shoe size sinecure! For my part it's the worst reply you
could do...a kind of insult to any intelligence...no a simple denial it
could exist. merde..bad news for art front. to get out of such bad
ideological impass i know only 2 mean, 1) telling filthy joke or 2) b52
carpet bombing or both if strangelove curatorial fan





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