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     "Paul St George" <stgeorge@lgu.ac.uk>
        <nettime> beforeKendallBruns.com
     pavu@papri.com
        Wednesday 30 May 2001 - 21:18:43  GMT
     Frederic Madre <fmadre@wanadoo.fr>
        Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Appropriation^4
     getlucky@news4u.co.uk
        Re: Syndicate: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: AfterKendallBruns.com for sale
     pavu@papri.com
        Re: RHIZOME_RAW: AfterKendallBruns.com for sale
     Frederic Madre <fmadre@wanadoo.fr>
        Re: RHIZOME_RAW: AfterKendallBruns.com for sale
     pavu@papri.com
        AfterKendallBruns.com for sale

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From: "Paul St George" <stgeorge@lgu.ac.uk>
Subject: <nettime> beforeKendallBruns.com
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 17:39:44 +0100

Michael Mandiberg welcomes AfterMichaelMandiberg.com, but I am curious.

The Walker Evans project is clear to me. He pointed a camera at people and
places and the camera recorded what was in front of it. So, the Walker Evans
photograph is an index of what Walker Evans selected to be in front of it.

The Sherrie Levine project is also clear to me. She pointed a camera at an
art market dominated by great (in the Modern sense) male artists and the
camera recorded what was in front of it. So, the Sherrie Levine photograph
is a symbol of the social conditions that confronted Sherrie Levine.

The Michael Mandiberg project is also very clear, but I would not presume to
describe it when Michael can do so much better. I find it interesting that
the images on his site are icons of and resemble both Sherrie Levine images
and Walker Evans images, but because of our knowledge and their condition
have very different connotations and commercial value.

What is the Kendall Bruns project? What is the Badur Ramji project? What is
added to the series of appropriations and different statements?

--
Paul St George
Senior Lecturer in Multimedia
London Guildhall University
100 Minories, London, EC3N 1JY
Tel: +44 (0) 207 320 1709

http://www.paulstgeorge.com

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From: pavu@papri.com
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 23:22:41 +0200
Subject: Wednesday 30 May 2001 - 21:18:43  GMT

http://artschwager.com  >>>>>>>  provisoire.com/doit2/index.shtml
http://broodthaers.com  >>>>>>>>>>>>  provisoire.com/realartist/
http://bublex.com  >>>  douchebag.com
http://closky.com  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  www.closky.fr
http://devautour.com  >>>>>>>  Bonjour,
http://duyckaerts.com    www.infonovo.com
http://filliou.com  >>>>>>>  provisoire.com
http://gonzalez-foerster.com  >>  www.tf1.fr
http://gonzalez-torres.com  >>>>>  www.afterwalkerevans.com
http://krystufek.com  >  www
http://lizene.com  >  www.afaa.asso.fr/artistes/
http://morellet.com  >  florent@morellet.com
http://muntadas.com  >>>  www.thefileroom.com
http://rutault.com  >  torpedogames.com
http://sorbelli.com  >>  www.ocaiw.com/degaleg4.jpg
http://tiravanija.com  >>>  tiravanija
http://toroni.com  >>>  www.planetmode.com
http://veilhan.com  >  provisoire.com
http://whiteread.com  >>>>>>>  whitereadrachael
http://wodiczko.com  >>>>>>>  twcdc.com

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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 14:03:54 +0200
From: Frederic Madre <fmadre@wanadoo.fr>
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Appropriation^4

At 21:18 24/05/2001 -0400, Michael Mandiberg wrote:
>-- 
>Today something exciting and out of the ordinary, but not entirely unexpected happened. 

please.

f. 

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From: getlucky@news4u.co.uk
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:41:59 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
Subject: Re: Syndicate: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: AfterKendallBruns.com for sale


But what is the actual point, gang?

-----Original Message-----
>From : pavu@papri.com
To : Frederic Madre <fmadre@wanadoo.fr>; Michael@Mandiberg.com; kendall@kendallbruns.com; list@rhizome.org; nettime-l@bbs.thing.net; syndicate@eg-r.isp-eg.de
Date : 22 May 2001 21:53:17
Subject : Syndicate: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: AfterKendallBruns.com for sale
YouWantedToBuyBeforeIGetBored.com ...>too much.
>
>Frederic Madre wrote:
>
>> At 20:14 22/05/2001 +0200, pavu@papri.com wrote:
>>
>> >   DOMAIN________________________OWNER____________________CREATED____
>> >
>> >   AfterWalkerEvans.com          Michael Mandiberg        13-Apr-2001
>> >   AfterSherrieLevine.com        Michael Mandiberg        16-Apr-2001
>> >   AfterMichaelMandiberg.com     Kendall Bruns            21-May-2001
>> >   AfterKendallBruns.com         ...                      ..-...-....
>> >   __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> I wanted to buy BeforeIGetBored.com ...
>> too late.
>>
>> f.
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From: pavu@papri.com
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 22:53:17 +0200
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: AfterKendallBruns.com for sale

YouWantedToBuyBeforeIGetBored.com ...
too much.

Frederic Madre wrote:

> At 20:14 22/05/2001 +0200, pavu@papri.com wrote:
>
> >   DOMAIN________________________OWNER____________________CREATED____
> >
> >   AfterWalkerEvans.com          Michael Mandiberg        13-Apr-2001
> >   AfterSherrieLevine.com        Michael Mandiberg        16-Apr-2001
> >   AfterMichaelMandiberg.com     Kendall Bruns            21-May-2001
> >   AfterKendallBruns.com         ...                      ..-...-....
> >   __________________________________________________________________
>
> I wanted to buy BeforeIGetBored.com ...
> too late.
>
> f.

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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:26:07 +0200
From: Frederic Madre <fmadre@wanadoo.fr>
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: AfterKendallBruns.com for sale

At 20:14 22/05/2001 +0200, pavu@papri.com wrote:

>   DOMAIN________________________OWNER____________________CREATED____
>                                                    
>   AfterWalkerEvans.com          Michael Mandiberg        13-Apr-2001 
>   AfterSherrieLevine.com        Michael Mandiberg        16-Apr-2001
>   AfterMichaelMandiberg.com     Kendall Bruns            21-May-2001
>   AfterKendallBruns.com         ...                      ..-...-....
>   __________________________________________________________________

I wanted to buy BeforeIGetBored.com ...
too late.

f.

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From: pavu@papri.com
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:14:59 +0200
Subject: AfterKendallBruns.com for sale

  DOMAIN________________________OWNER____________________CREATED____
                                                   
  AfterWalkerEvans.com          Michael Mandiberg        13-Apr-2001 
  AfterSherrieLevine.com        Michael Mandiberg        16-Apr-2001
  AfterMichaelMandiberg.com     Kendall Bruns            21-May-2001
  AfterKendallBruns.com         ...                      ..-...-....
  __________________________________________________________________

  miscellaneous : http://www.mandiberg.com/i-shop/images/3205.jpg
                  http://www.kendallbruns.com/misc/diploma.jpg

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