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     Re: <nettime> parliament of things

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From: "porculus" <porculus@wanadoo.fr>
Subject: Re: <nettime> victory or peace?
Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 18:58:18 +0200

> Even within Europe the factors giving rise to these new political forces
> are very different from country to country.

indeed, but it's constitutive to all true right winging, due to their
declared 'culturalist' mode, zuch bull are based one some 'idiotism' as
nothing for tehm is universal etzeteraz..fucking right winging are more
depictable in their habitus, than in their corpus

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From: "porculus" <porculus@wanadoo.fr>
Subject: Re: <nettime> parliament of things
Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 19:03:58 +0200

> >Translation:  because science is simply politics by other means, it needs
> >to be brought under the rule of law.

tz of course politics is not a 'science' & never was

> >Of course, by law he meant "natural law" and by "natural law" he meant
> >"religion".  Latour's concept of law may be different in form, but not in
> >substance.  When he talks about a "politics of nature", he doesn't really
> >mean that bacteria and rocks should be elected to parliament.  What he's
> >really saying is that science should be brought under political control.

never heard darwin said nature had a politic, there is no project,
no progress in nature and this fucking earth turn indeed & has an
intelligible history  (after fact) & this without any determinism,
it's also precisely the hardest to really understand in his theorie.
politique belong only to 'subject' and to say as the subjects
belong to nature so nature has project etc or imagine the science could
'speak' as kind of subject is kind of weird gnosis. & this
superstition is see as lethal for all reveled religion & awaken their old
criminal reflex for all paganism.
in darwin's theorie can lay some kind of huge mysterie
what dont to much bother the reveled religion, but in vulgate & technic live
kind ov znake

> Science not only describes, it also
> perscribes. In other words, it also creates reality.

not & not much for techne. but in the huge field of technic the progress is
non 'isotropic' (beside this is just an idiot vue de l'esprit) so exist kind
of percieved as transcendental or immanent progress in r&d as ROI,
militarian prescription, national systemic effect, and even 'fashion' in
research as said some scientist and of course some weirdness & coincidence
as histroy of laser and other idiot reasons far stronger than me that
machinated a seemingly speaking superbull logos .
well enuf of heap of thing that seems to have a weird autonomous, enuf of
zing that are able to change since kind of dürer not only the representation
we could have of ourself but even deeper in  our panz i.e. far inner in our
schwartz forest has said ze half nazi guy heidegger..
zis point is far more important than produce 'truth', it produce destiny.
strangely the nation as super being could be an extraordianry modern
hegelian uber alles bioenvelopp that find in 'science' a material mean for
'spiritual affirmation' : avter all it's quite possible oussamaz died under
a fragmentation bcu something bomb sent from a b1b piloted by a divorced &
pregnant american girl. if he is alive imagine how much faith is necessary
for compensing zuch peroxyd american nightmare. c'est la vie oussamaz

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