Geert Lovink on Mon, 21 Mar 2016 02:50:11 +0100 (CET)

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Re: <nettime> notes from the DIEM25 launch

No, you are totally right, this is also my problem with the approach, a
problem which goes down much deeper??? I think the roots are in the idea
that economists can only talk about the economy and the rest listens,
resulting in the focus on celeb speakers, big halls, tickets that need
to be sold bought and sold out events. Maybe one section of society
really believes in the spectacle as the vehicle for public debate. Those
with a background in grass roots initiatives and autonomous movements
have made other experiences??? This split is becoming quite clear. For
the time being within DIEM25 this is not a contradiction. Soon it might
when we will start to speak about strategy and move on from debate to
action. Best, Geert

On 20 Mar 2016, at 6:00 pm, Michael Gurstein <> wrote:

> Geert,
> Thanks for this... Regrettably this looks like more of the top down 10
> leaders in search of a movement initiative...
> Am I wrong?
> M

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