Re: <nettime> radio nettime: 8 Sept 2019 12:00-13:00

[Geoffrey Goodell <goodell@oxonia.net>]

Hi Felix,

I am confused about the source and scope of the perceived threat that has led
to the perception of such urgency to shut down the list.  I must ask what it is
about the current dynamics that the erstwhile leaders find so threatening.

Perhaps it is because I have not been around Nettime back in the twentieth
century, but I see nothing wrong with it.  In fact, I like it as it is.

If the maintainer of the mailing list server would like to quit for whatever
reason, then I for one would be happy to take up the task.  I'm sure I'm not
alone.  In fact, I'd run a mailing list for the oldster-tribe just as readily
as I'd run a mailing list for the youngster-tribe.  I don't have a horse in
this race, just bewilderment about what people find so objectionable.

Yours in confusion --

Geoff

On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 10:51:08AM +0200, Felix Stalder wrote:
> I would try to reverse the question. Not what are the costs (which are
> hard to calculate anyway), but what are the benefits. And if they
> approach zero, then it's time to stop in a decent way (and archive the
> list for good). There is no use to do useless stuff. There is enough of
> that on the world.
> 
> For me, the benefits have decreased, but are they close enough to zero?
> What could be done to increase them? What would constitute a benefit,
> and to whom?
> 
> Felix
> 
> 
> On 02.09.19 22:28, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> > If the cost of running the list was exactly zero (let's not delve into
> > details at this point), would you still kill it?
> > 
> > If yes, then we have an interesting case of potlatch, without bonfire.
> > 
> > 
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