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01 . Eugene Thacker           . New World (dis)Orders?
02 . isea                     . CyberAfrica
03 . Trace                    . frAme Online Journal of Culture 
                                and Technology
04 . MAZE] corp [ROZE         . hopscotch bleu !
05 . reiner strasser          . The Virtual Affair
06 .     . project world peace ballroom in the net!
07 . Wes Tilson               . Missing Children Java Banner Link
08 .     . visionplus7 - information design
                                conference, tokyo, october 99
09 . Capital Training         . CAPITAL TRAINING - der Congress
10 . Reception                . The Museum of the 21st Century - 
                                Lingo talk at ICA on 13 Feb 99
11 . Trace                    . trAce Writers in Residence - Virtual 
                                and Flesh
12 .                          . CG grand prix 99 in Aizu
13 . Ivo Skoric               . apel (fwd)
14 . Ivo Skoric               . Zamir Chat

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Date:  Tue, 02 Feb 1999 11:51:59 -0500
From: Eugene Thacker <>
To: Multiple recipients of <>
Subject:  ann! ...  New World (dis)Orders?


February 18 + 19, 1999
The Fourth Annual Comparative Literature Conference at Rutgers
University, presented in conjunction with [techne]W3LAB, an online group
exhibit of + hyper.theory

with Keynote Speaker :: 

and Keynote Panel ::  a dialogue on global feminism

and webcast performance by :: 
How are heterogeneous processes of "globalization" changing the ways in
which we see ourselves and others? How are they affecting the ways in
which we structure and restructure our disciplines, practices, politics,
and discourses? What tensions arise  between meta-narratives of
globalization and located, situated knowledges? What are the real and
material consequences of transnational and transcultural events? How
might theory translate into social change in formations of new world
Contact Information :: 
Thomas Ponniah(
Bethuel Hunter (
Romana Uhlirova (
Sara Warner (
Eugene Thacker (

For More Info ::
Rutgers University website
Program in Comparative Literature
732.932.7606 / 732.932.1862 (fax)
[techne]W3LAB :: works_in_progress_works_in_process

an online node of experiments in, hypertext, design,
programming, performance, animation, VRML, and theory.

also visit the [techne] website at

   ................................................................... 02

Date:  Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:45:47 -0500
From: isea <isea@ISEA.QC.CA>
To: Multiple recipients of <>
Subject:  ann! ...  (No subject)

For immediate release
February 1, 1999

ISEA invites you to get in step to the beat of CyberAfrica!

1-24 February, 1999
Dakar, Sngal

In order to stimulate francophone and African Internet art, the
Inter-society for the Electronic Arts (ISEA) will be offering web creation
workshops to over 20 artists in Dakar during the month of February. 

The Internet training and web design workshops, which will be held at
Metissacana, the first Internet caf in West Africa, target professional
Senegalese artists working in various disciplines (sound, visual arts and
literature). Apart from the creation of original material for the web, the
workshops aim to outfit each artist with the skills necessary to access
new modes of expression and communication, all while providing
international exposure. 

The workshop content could be informed both by the contemporary expriences
of the artists as well as by the rich cultural heritage of the region -for
instance, that which is embodied in the oral tradition, stories, and
legends. Another goal of the project is to encourage net-art projects and
"cyber-collaboration" between artists in Dakar and around the world. 

The workshops will be led by 3 Montralers: Eva Quintas, who intiated the
project for ISEA, as well as Michel Lefebvre and Catherine McGovern, both
of whom are active in developing cultural content for the Internet. 

Visit the ISEA web site to follow the activities in Dakar and participate
in the SOUK, an open zone on the website where you can send your texts,
images, ideas and comments. SOUK is the term for 'market', an active and
colourful public sphere in many African societies. In the spirit of the
SOUK, we invite you to communicate and collaborate with artists in Senegal
and around the world! 

Join CyberAfrica by pointing your browser to:

Dakar Web is made possible by the kind financial support of l'Agence de la
francophonie and the Canadian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The workshops
are produced with the colloboration of Metissacana Internet caf, the
Biennale de Dakar, the Canadian Embassy in Senegal, and Aziz Abdoul Sall. 

Web Workshops 1-24 February, 1999

Lamine Barro		visual artist
Serigne Mbaye Camara	visual artist
Mamadou Fall Dabo	painter
Rackie Diankha		visual artist
Sa Diallo		visual artist
Viye Diba			painter
Pape Teigne Diouf		painter
Vieux Mac Faye		musician
Anta Germaine Gaye	glass painter, sculptor
Assana Gning		painter
Frres Guiss		musician
Ndary Lo			visual artist
Massamba Mbaye		writer
Fatou Sow Ndiaye		writer
Papa Madick Seck		multi-disciplinary artist
Djibril Sy			photographer
Alpha Sow		ceramicist
Moussa Tine		visual artist

*  ISEA- 307, Ste-Catherine O # 760.* C.P.508, Succ. Desjardins
*  Montreal Quebec H5B 1B6 Canada * Tel:1-(514) 281-6543 * Fax:1-(514)
           *  email: * * 

   ................................................................... 03

Date:  Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:15:49 -0000
From: Trace <>
To: Multiple recipients of <>
Subject:  ann! ...  frAme Online Journal of Culture and Technology

frAme Online Journal of Culture and Technology
                                                 Issue 3

frAme is an online journal publishing work focused on the core area of the
inter-relation between culture and technology. 

Although the journal has a theoretical slant it does not publish only
purely theoretical pieces but also includes digital artwork, fiction, and

frAme _3_ will feature critical essays, digital artwork/multimedia,
interviews with artists/musicians/writers etc, reviews of techno-cultural
artefacts, and writing relevant to this area. 

We invite submissions for this issue. Closing date 31 March 1999. 

frAme _3_ will be launched in April at the Associated Writing Programs
Annual Conference in Albany, NY, where frAme editor Simon Mills will be
talking about the design and development of the magazine. 

All submissions must be previously unpublished and a payment of Fifty
Pounds Sterling will be made for those used. 

Those interested in submitting work might first like to see previous
issues at:

frAme is connected to the trAce Online Writing Community  based at The Nottingham Trent University.

Contact Simon Mills, frAme Editor
trAce, The Nottingham Trent University, Clifton Lane, Nottingham NG11 8NS


>trAce international online writing community
>Faculty of Humanities, Nottingham Trent University, Clifton Lane, 
>Nottingham NG11 8NS UK
>phone: ++ 44 (0)115 948 6360  fax: ++ 44 (0)115 948 6364

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Date:  Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:57:28 +0100
From: "MAZE] corp [ROZE" <>
To: Multiple recipients of <>
Subject:  ann! ...  hopscotch bleu !


Je vous propose une marelle.
Pour prendre ce chemin, suivez le lien: 'nous reverrons-nous ?' (cot
gauche de votre cran), de cette page:
Bon voyage
de la terre jusqu'au ciel ?
I'll offer an hopscotch.
To take this course, follow the link: 'nous reverrons-nous ?' (leftside
of your screen.) of these page:
Have a good travel.
Hopping from the earth to the sky ?
- forum: <>
- poster : <>
(`..`..->  mazecorp & roze  <-..`..)

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Date:  Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:09:52 +0100
From: reiner strasser <>
To: Multiple recipients of <>
Subject:  ann! ...  Re: announcement ... The Virtual Affair

over the last year
until now
i have created
some new works
different possibilities
of hyperlink navigation
and interactivity
under themed aspects

you can have a look
>>> r.i.c.
>>> digital sketches

comments welcome

reiner (strasser)

   ................................................................... 06

Date:  Sun, 7 Feb 1999 08:06:40 +0100 (MET)
From: Geert Lovink <>
To: Multiple recipients of <>
Subject:  ann! ...  project world peace ballroom in the net! (fwd)

----- Forwarded message from Mein Name -----

>From Sun Feb  7 04:49:25 1999

hallo freunde!

das projekt world peace ballroom ist unter gestartet!

um rege beteiligung wird gebeten!

viele liebe gre,

   ................................................................... 07

From: "Wes Tilson" <>
Subject: Missing Children Java Banner Link 
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:39:25 -0500

You can help by placing a link on your web page. Join thousands of
individuals who are already helping NCMEC disseminate photographs of
missing children over the Internet by participating in the Web Links
Project.  Displaying images of missing children has proven to be one of
the most successful methods of finding missing children. 

Missing Children Java Banner Link This banner runs continuously,
displaying 12 photographs of missing children and linking to important
information on child safety. 

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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:51:48 +0100
Subject: visionplus7 - information design conference, tokyo, october 99
visionplus7 - information design conference

diversification of minds - conversation in processes 
design for communities 

Tokyo, 06.10 - 10.10 1999 

The international visionplus series of conferences was initialized by the
international institute for information design, IIID in vienna, austria
1995. The goal of visionplus is to create awareness about the general
needs of information design within the rapid development of information-
and communication technologies. 

visionplus7 will be the first international conference of its kind to take
place in japan. 

A selection of internationally renowned presenters together with top
experts of related fields from japan should provide a remarkable input
into current plannig of educational curricula as well as projects of
public communication. Under the heading <design for communities> the
presentations of visionplus7 will focus on new concepts of information
generation, processing and delivering as needed for successful
communication within communities of local and global scales. 

visionplus7 is adressing itself to experts in design, information
technology, communication, corporate planning and education of government
bodies, public institutions and industries. 

For the first two days of the visionplus7 event we are inviting
internationally recognized experts of Information Management, Information
Design, and Information Interfaces to conduct small group working
seminars. At the time of writing, IDEO Product Development and MetaDesign
have assured us of their readiness to act as seminar managers. 

The proposed program is the preliminary result of several restatements of
proposals for a virtual program within the visionplus7 preparatory
committee. Everybody was asked to submit not only a title and summary but
also a fictitious biography of the speaker for each program suggestion. 

Please let us know your opinion! This will be a valuable input for further

keynote speech 
information design: definitions, applications, visions.  
clarifying the shared vocabulary of <information design>. giving an
overview of current movements worldwide. 
sketching possible directions for future applications. 
information communities- mapping access to service businesses.  
presentation of examples of printed and online documents for guidance to
specific services within distinct communities. 
emphasis will be given to the conception of these systems, maintenance and
integration within other information scapes. 
businesses for the prototyping of information contexts.  
outlining new disciplines of merging the fields of engineering and design.
presenting scenarios of successful cooperation. 
the economy of information management: assessment of communication design
within communities.  departing from a shrewd analysis of communication and
marketing strategies of multinational companies, the presenter will
propose an open framework for a sustainable communication scenario, with
specific emphasis on the economy of information management. 

the ecology of information management: 2 case studies.  analyzing
exemplary consumer-products and consumer information, the presenter
proposes an integral framework for product/ information development
considering the management of resources, the planning of life cycles, the
evaluation of actual application, and total recyclability.  propose a

information design for city administrations: presentation of model
showing examples of communication media of selected communities, the
presenter is setting up a framework of guidelines for integral
communication strategies for governements(?). 
propose a speaker... 
cities as networked communities: experiences and outlook.  
drawing from the expertise of a well-established network for citizen
participation, the presenter is giving insights in background, management
and vision of the . interface design issues appearing in a multi-age,
multi-cultural society are given special consideration. 
sustainable communication strategies of nomads: perspectives for
applications in new media.  
starting from traditional communication and information structures among
nomads, this presentation explores the impact of mass media on their
culture. three scenarios of possible information industries are
ethnographic methods for the evaluation of information design strategies.  
ethnographic methods draw from anthropology, research planning, and
effective field methods. the presentation describes how, design
implications can be distilled from such research data. 
propose a speaker... 

community communications: informing spheres of personal living.  
proposals of interfaces for community awareness. methods for rendering
flows of communication, consumption and digestion in private, semipublic
and public spaces. 
climatology of information flows: observations and forecasts for risk
based on the dynamics of natural phenomena, the presenter proposes an
emphatic approach to problem recognition, communication and information
design. examples of concrete implementations are given. 

charts of the nerve points of information embodiments: visual metaphors
for the layout of communication networks.  
introducing general concepts of asian/ chinese traditional medicine to
design and management of information networks. 
propose a speaker... 

from pebbles to eCommerce: design of currencies and the evolution of new
languages within communities of virtual commerce.  
tracing routes from gestures of physical exchange and commitment to
attitudes of symbolic affluence. the rhetoric of design within the context
of information economies 

<shakkei>, applying japanese concepts of garden design to the
construction of informationScapes.  
analyzing several models of the design of space-perception, the presenter
introduces current research into the visualization of informationScapes.
directions for future research are outlined. 
<MANGA> comics as a medium for instantaneous information design.  
the language of picture stories as a means to couple static and dynamic
expression. changes of perception patterns through symbolization of
knowledge farming- scenarios for future information industries.  different
types of computer-mediated knowledge models: from experiments in
augmented, immersive, dispersive reality to concepts of vegetative
interfaces for coherent databases and biogeneric knowledge farming. 

please fill out the form if you have suggestions for speakers:

   ................................................................... 09

Date:  Mon, 8 Feb 1999 01:13:49 +0100 (MET)
From: (Capital Training)
To: Multiple recipients of <>
Subject:  ann! ...  CAPITAL TRAINING - der Congress

CAPITAL TRAINING for virtual new media artists - der Congress

In 7 Vortrgen, Performances und Workshops werden progressive Umgangsweisen
mit Computern und Netzen vorgestellt. Technisches Grundwissen wird
vermittelt und zugleich werden Herkunft und Anwendung dieses Wissens

Der Congress findet im Rahmen der Ausstellung crosslinks
<> statt. 

12. und 13.02.1999 von 14.00 Uhr bis ca. 18.00 Uhr 
in der Galerie im Marstall, Schloplatz 7, 10178 Berlin-Mitte 


>> Freitag, 12.02.1999
14.00 Begrung und Einfhrung in Capital Training
Ellen Nonnenmacher

14.30 SEX und das one-banana problem
die geheime sprache der hacker
Valentina Djordjevic

15.30 P I X E L, Erfahrungen mit den Bildelementen
(Achtung: Neue Probleme beim digitalen Signalprocessing)
Claudia Reiche

17.00 Gestresst? Chill Twice!
Tina Friedrich

>> Samstag, 13.02.1999
14.00 Die Experimentelle Arachnologie und ihre Bedeutung fr eine
zukunftsaktive  Netzkonomie
Helene von Oldenburg

15.00 aim - you will hit
(Einfhrung in Objektorientierte Programmierformen)
Kerstin Weiberg

16.30 Abschlugesprch mit allen Referentinnen

17.30 paintbrush/plein air
Christine Kriegerowski

Kamera: Ursula Lw
Musik arrangiert von: Jim Lusted
Akkordeon: Jochen A. Liedtke, recorded at cloud seven
Web: <>
Mail: <>

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Date:  Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:09:06 +0100
From: Reception <>
To: Multiple recipients of <>
Subject:  ann! ...  The Museum of the 21st Century - Lingo talk at ICA on
13 Feb 99 (f)

The Museum of the 21st Century:
Archiving and Conservation of Networked Media

a Lingo day seminar on Saturday 13 February 1999, 12am to 6pm at the ICA,

Lingo is a new digital media discussion series which takes its cue from
many of the issues raised during the popular Cached talks at the ICA (see
the Cached archive site at  Whilst
Cached investigated the production of art and digital media, and the
nature of products dedicated exclusively to the net, Lingo aims to
interrogate some of the deeper underlying issues.  Future Lingo events
will examine media convergence, political activism, music online and
network architectures. 

The Museum of the Twenty First Century will explore the problems raised by
the production, conservation and collection of art projects on-line.  In
the context of constant upgrades, when browsers and processors are
improved on an almost monthly basis and when bandwidth increases in an
exponential manner, the realm in which projects are produced is
ever-changing creating a situation of instability which jeopardises the
collection and conservation of art online.  As an artist what are the
issues you have to consider in producing work that aspires to live beyond
the moment?  As a collector how could you preserve an artwork based on
transient technology? As a curator what are the best approaches to
presenting unstable media? 

The seminar brings together leading media curators and artists from the UK
, Europe and North America to tackle the key issues raised by The Museum
of the Twenty First Century.  Participants for the day will include: 

- Steven Bury, a researcher and archivist at the London Institute - Vuk
Cosic, artist and web archaeologist from Lublijana, Slovenia - Alain
Depocas, a researcher and archivist at the Musee d'Art Contemporain,
Montreal - Steve Dietz, the Director of New Media Initiatives at the
Walker Art Center, Minneapolis - Ursula Frohne, Curator at the Zentrum fur
Kunst und Medientechnologie (ZKM), Karlsruhe - Simon Lamuniere, Curator at
SGG Centre pour l'Image Contemporaine, Geneva - Vivian Selbo, artist and
information architect from New York - Neil Cummings, an artist and curator
based in London

Information about the Lingo series can be found at and an online extension of The Museum of
the Twenty First Century will be constructed in collaboration with the
Transmediale international media art festival in Berlin at

The Museum of the Twenty First Century will be held on Saturday 13
from 12am to 6pm at the ICA, London.  Tickets for the day cost gbp 20 for
non-ICA  members / 16 for concessions / 14 for ICA  members and can be
booked via the ICA box office on +44 (0)171 930 3647.

Lingo is a collaboration between Artec, the ICA Education and New Media
Departments and the London Institute.

channel . commissions . residencies . network projects . information .
debate . webcasts . channel

from 1 February 1999:

Weightless by Thomson & Craighead
'a compendium of readymades in electronic space' for Version 4 browsers on
Windows or Mac via (temporary url) or mirror

CHANNEL is is a unique home for collaborative and experimental networked
arts projects, debate and resources.

For more information about Channel and Artec projects contact:
David Sinden, Arts Programme Coordinator, Artec on +44 171 477 2775 or

Channel web: (temporary url)

channel . commissions . residencies . network projects . information
.debate . webcasts . channel

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Date:  Mon, 8 Feb 1999 16:50:47 -0000
From: Trace <>
To: Multiple recipients of <>
Subject:  ann! ...  trAce Writers in Residence - Virtual and Flesh

Writers-in-Residence - Virtual and Flesh
At the trAce Online Writing Community

Writers around the world can now get online help, advice and inspiration
from trAce Writers-in-Residence, starting with Christy Sheffield Sanford.
She has just taken up her post as trAce Virtual Writer-in-Residence and
will be launching her first series of online workshops on Friday 12th
February. There will be a Flesh Writer-in-Residence too, starting early
summer in Britain. 

>From February 1999 - September 2000 there will be three Half-Time Virtual
Writers-in-Residence. They will provide professional feedback via email to
writers, establish lively interactive online writing groups, and be
available live at regular weekly online meetings at <> .
At the same time, they will continue to produce their own creative work
and maintain a regularly updated online writer's journal. 

* Virtual from Feb 1 for 6 months Christy Sheffield Sanford (Florida) Christy Sheffield Sanford
recently won The Well's prize for the Best Hyperlinked Work on the Web.
Her work has been praised by George Myers Jr. in the Columbus Dispatch,
George Landow in Hypertext 2.0 and N. Katherine Hayles in ArtForum. Her
online work has been published by Light and Dust, Enterzone, The Little
Magazine, Salt Hill and many other ezines and project sites. She has won a
National Endowment for the Arts Fellowship and is the author of seven
books including The H's: The Spasm of a Requiem, The Italian Smoking Piece
and Only the Nude Can Redeem the Landscape. 

* Virtual from September 1 for 6 months Alan Sondheim (New York)
<> Alan Sondheim is a poet,
critic, and theorist who writes on and about the Internet. His books
include Disorders of the Real, and the anthology Being on Line. He
co-moderates several email lists, including Fiction of Philosophy,
Cybermind, and Cyberculture. He lives in Brooklyn, New York, with cat and

* Virtual from April 1 2000 for 6 months Alan McDonald (Cumbria)
<> Alan McDonald founded
unHoly Island (
<> ). He is best-known however as a
scriptwriter for television (including Brookside and EastEnders) and
radio, most recently 'E Love' (Radio 4, 1998) about a transatlantic e-mail
love affair. He's published two novels, non-fiction, and also develops
computer Help systems and teaches writing. 

*****There will also be a Full-Time Live Writer-in-Residence based in
Nottingham, England. Bernard Cohen
<> >From June 1999 Bernard
will spend six months in Britain working with UK writers. He will also act
as a point of live contact for writers working both on and offline,
providing training on how they might best use the web and giving feedback
on their writing and web authorship. Bernard will establish classes and
tutorials in the use of the web for writing for writers and readers living
in the East Midlands as well provide professional feedback via email to
writers, establish lively interactive online writing groups, and be
available live at regular weekly online meetings at <> .
At the same time, he will continue to produce his own creative work and
maintain a regularly updated online writer's journal. 

Bernard Cohen is the author of three novels: Tourism, The Blindman's Hat
(which won the 1996 Australian/Vogel Literary Award) and Snowdome. He has
twice been named by the Sydney Morning Herald as one of the Best Young
Australian Novelists, has received several Australia Council fellowships
and won a number of short story competitions. He was born in 1963 and now
lives in Katoomba in the Blue Mountains west of Sydney Australia. 

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Date:  Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:38:26 +0100
From: "intim@" <>
To: Multiple recipients of <>
Subject:  ann! ...  CG grand prix 99 in Aizu

--- Forwarded by intim@ ---

Information on the Dream Centenary CG Grand Prix99 in Aizu

CG Grand Prix Committee are going to give exhibition entitled 
"Dream Centenary CG grand prix 99 in Aizu".

This is a competitive exhibition for computer graphics and computer
assisted artworks from all field, science to art, education to

Aizu is an old city near mountainsides where is northern part in Japan and
very beautiful place. The city government announced they will present big
money for the CG Grand Prix99 competition, prizes money of the Grand Prix
is 1 million Yen and others. The Aizu will be an 100 years old city in
this summer. 

Jury members are: Dr. Tosiyasu L. Kunii, Yoichiro Kawaguchi, Dr.  Tosiyasu
L. Kunii (a former president of the University of Aizu, which university
is the co-organizer of the Dream Centenary CG Grand Prix99 in Aizu). 

If an artist will get the prize of the Grand Prix, he will be invited to
Aizu to get the prize with travel fee for his travel to and from Aizu. 

Toshihiro Yatsumonji
Executive Producer

CG Grand Prix Committee office
Sankei Media Service Inc.
1-7-2, Ohte-machi, chiyoda-ku, 
Tokyo 100-8077, Japan
Phone and Fax: +81-3-5219-8871
E-mail :

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From: "Ivo Skoric" <>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:58:48 +0000
Subject: (Fwd) Fw: apel


CENTRE FOR HUMAN-WOMEN'S RIGHTS "ELENA", Prishtina, Kosova, dealing
with the protection of human rights, of women's in particular, worried
the continuation:

- Of drastic violation of human rights and freedom in Kosova.

- Of crimes against humanity and international right in Kosova.

- Of killings and massacres against Albanian civilian population in Kosova
(massacres in Prekaz, Likoshan, Abri, Reak )

- Of the civilian population violently expulsion from their hometowns,
as a consequence of state terror.

- Of the destruction of dwelling objects and other material goods of
Albanian civilian population in Kosova.

- Of the aggravation of the material condition and the lack of food, and
other basic things for normal life of the IDP's in Kosova.

- Of the violation of state terror that results with all forms of
victimization of Albanian civilian population in Kosova , with
of physical, psychological, social and economical nature, we:


-That UN, SC, OSCE, USA, EC and other relevant international institution
should obligate the ending of war in Kosova, and should take further steps
protecting civilian population.

- International Hague Tribunal to take actions in order to investigate the
crimes against humanity in Kosova, and to sentence the criminals.

- International Humanitarian Organizations to increase their interest and
offer an aid to the civilian population in Kosova.

Remaining deeply worried about the continuation of killings and the
destruction of the civilian population in Kosova, we appeal for an urgent, 
obligate action of the International Factor in Kosova.

Prishtina, January 28,1998
Informing Centre

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From: "Ivo Skoric" <>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:58:57 +0000
Subject: Zamir Chat

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