Eric Kluitenberg on Tue, 24 Apr 2007 00:02:50 +0200 (CEST)

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[Nettime-nl] Cool Media Hot Talk Show "Radio 2.0" over radio in het internettijdperk, De Balie, woensdag 2 mei 20.30 uur

geachte nettime-nl'ers,

Woensdag 2 mei (20.30 uur) vindt de eerste echte Cool Media Hot Talk Show plaats in De Balie in Amsterdam, rond het thema Radio 2.0 - radio in het internettijdperk. Iedereen wordt aangemoedigd zich actief met de ontwikkeling van deze nieuwe serie maandelijkse D.I.Y. talkshows over kunst en media te bemoeien. Liggen voor de eerstkomende shows de sprekers al grotendeels vast, voor latere edities kunnen via de website nieuwe sprekers, kunstenaars, talenten worden voorgedragen. Het is voortdurend mogelijk vooraf (kritische) vragen te stellen, commentaren te posten en te stemmen over de voorstellen van anderen (en jezelf!).
De beste suggestie van de maand wordt bovendien beloond met een prijs.

Ook tijdens de show kun je via het web en SMS reageren, nieuwe vragen stellen en de performance van de sprekers / performers beoordelen. Er is natuurlijk een snelle wireless verbinding in de zaal aanwezig, dus iedereen wordt aangemoedigd laptops mee te nemen en zo ook in de zaal on-line mee te stemmen.

De website zal vanaf nu een continu discussieplatform zijn, we hopen dat zich hier een levendig debat kan gaan ontwikkelen!

Alle verdere details in de aankondiging hieronder.

vriendelijke groet,


D.I.Y. talk show on art & media


TOPIC: Radio 2.0. The Art of Radio in the Age of the Internet
SPEAKERS: Adam Hyde and Arie Altena
QUESTIONS: Ask-It-Yourself NOW and during the show at

Wednesday May 2, 20.30 CET
video stream and interface for online participation:
location: De Balie, Amsterdam (bring your laptops and mobiles)


Radio 2.0

Questioning the relevance of radio in the internet age

Internet radio or is now so much part of the daily practice and experience of the internet that it has become alsmost ‘vernacular’, i.e it is almost impossible to perceive it for what it is (audio on-line), and more importantly to see it as something that could be imagined differently. The adoption of the metaphor in such mainstream software packages as iTunes strengthens the adherence to the old and accustomed model of ‘radio’ with a critical mass of internet users. In a sense, most befitting to a show about media hot and cool, it expresses beautifully the idea of McLuhan that “the content of any new medium is an old medium” and that we are thus “moving into the future looking backwards”…

We want to question what the relevance of radio is (as an artistic form and as a medium) in the internet age. Why stick to the notion of ‘radio’ when the ways of handling and experiencing audio in an on- line environment (on the internet) can be so much more versatile? Is not a concept like, popular in internet-art circles such as the xChange network, already a reactionary move towards the past?

If artists want to explore, continue or reinvigorate the legacy of ‘Radio Art’, why connect this with an internet related practice? Looking back at the history of radio as a medium and the artists involvement it is important to remember that already in the late 1920s Bertold Brecht famously explored the idea of radio as a distributed interactive communication space consciously as an artistic and a social / political tool. Technically also traditional radio has the capacity of transforming every receiver into a transmitter, thus enabling a communication structure pretty similar to the internet. However, it was not technology but regulation and legislation that killed this transformative potential of the radio medium.

Looking at this today two ideas present themselves: First that we need to be aware of this history in order not to make the same mistakes vis-à-vis the internet (allowing it to be closed down by regulation and legislation). Secondly, now that a mass of users has become accustomed to the open media of the internet, would it not be a more productive and interesting idea to take the internet to radio, rather than the other way around? Why not try to open up the traditional radio space in a way similar to the internet, taking the internet-attitude of the youtube generation to radio?

This is also important locally in Amsterdam, where after all this show is physically staged, which had a huge tradition in open media and free radio, but where the radio space has recently been forcefully closed down by new regulation, legislation ánd enforcement!


Arie Altena (.nl), is a writer and theorist who lectures and writes about new media, art, internet-culture, media-theory &c. for various magazines and publications. Currently he also works as editor/ researcher for V2_ in Rotterdam. His weblog is at: blog/

Adam Hyde (.nz), is an artist, educator, tactical media practitioner, streaming media consultant, and sometime curator. He is involved in numerous projects that fuse (sound-) art, radio, and the internet, a.o. r a d i o q u a l i a, Radio Astronomy, and Polar Radio. http://


Radio is not as it seems. It has never been live. It has always been a rather fast method for delivering an archive. It is now time to confront the great pretender and investigate the nuances of the reigning principle of radio - delay.

Radio is the best archival media there is. Copy your digital files into sound, broadcast them into space, - they will exist forever. Retreiving them does require some work still as the speed of light remains a barrier for indexing and retrieving radio waves, but given time science cures even the most anxious archivists worries. Archive now, let science take care of the rest later.

But is radio really an archival medium? Or is it live? Are radio waves themselves a guarantee of liveness or do they simply deliver archival material really quickly? What does 'live' actually mean and does it even matter? Further, what role does the internet have in this debate, is it possible to say that a downloaded mp3 file is live radio?

Adam will talk about various projects he has worked on including r a d i o q u a l i a s Radio Astronomy ( and Wifio ( by Simpel - Radio Astronomy is a live online radio station broadcasting sounds from space. Wifio is a radio tuner that allows you to listen to the internet. It captures data traffic on open wireless connections and translates emails, webpages, voip and irc to speech. With wifio you too can listen to the internet in your neighbourhood....


What is radio? Maybe the only way of explaining what radio nowadays signifies, is by taking radio as a sort of mock-latin for "I am beaming", or "I am sending". In the West we are getting quite far removed from 'radio' as a specific way of transmitting signals through the air, or a format where someone in a studio makes a programme for us to listen to. The word radio is grifted upon many of our media-uses. We can even conceptualize of every carrier of an iPod or laptop with an open internet-connection and iTunes (or another sound-programme running) as radio-stations, stations that others can tune into. Radio then is - like the commercial channels - an operation upon an archive (selected play lists from a huge database of sound files), possibly remixed.

I like this re-use of the word radio - taking all those stations streaming sound as radio. Most of that is utterly uninteresting to most (even when I sit down in places like De Balie or V2_ and proceed to check on the shared iTunes-'radio stations' in my immediate environment, I hardly ever see anything I'd like to listen to, and I imagine the same will be true of people checking on my archive.) If we have something like radio, it is radically personalized (more personalized than

This is the perspective of the listener who in some sense, involuntary, becomes a radio station himself, by carrying around networked equipment. It's a technology-effect, it has not much to do with a (conscious) decision to start sending.

What then does the same technological change signify for someone who takes the conscious decision to send? To become a disembodied voice? To represent - what?

I am always a bit disappointed when alternative radio - say artists taking up radio - uses the formats of classic, mainstream radio from the twentieth century, from the high times of 'radio stations', with talk shows, jingles, announcements, phone-ins, and a deejay who talks in between records that he spins. Of course, that was a strong genre.

A note: all the radio programmes that I have fond memories of were held together by a distinctive human voice (like that of Michiel de Ruyter).


the winner will be selected through direct and open voting

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