Andreas Broeckmann on Tue, 16 May 2000 14:03:58 +0200 (CEST) |
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[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> OFSS01: First Orbiten Free Software Survey |
rishab- >> more importantly, the 'bazaar' is not necessarily a result of multiple, >> concrete cooperations, but one of a proximity (through newsgroups, mailing >> lists, etc.) of people working on their own, separate projects. the Bazaar >> has many individual shops between which advice, insult and information can >> be shouted back an forth. it might even work better if there are not too >> many people who stick their fingers into too many tents at any one time. > >we use 'bazaar' in a somewhat technical sense - a development methodology, >not a market structure. i.e. in comparison with raymond's 'cathedral' . >in that sense, a system with projects that involve many people has >'bazaar' style development. if the system is more like an aggregation of >several small projects, developed singlemindedly, it's more like ... >an aggregation of miniature cathedrals? note that this in no way refelects >on or takes away from the distributed nature of the system; only on the >nature of _development_ of projects. again - i don't agree. the dichotomy that you set up between bazaar and cathedral - i may be misguided or uninformed about the standard reading of these concepts - seems too strict, because even if a specific project is run by one or two people, they are most likely in contact with many others who feed them ideas, critique, maybe even bits of code. the organisational structure of who is formally involved in which projects does not necessarily reflect the multiplicity of social relations in which it is embedded. the cathedral is a principle that seeks to formalise, hierarchise or exclude these relations. the bazaar is an environment where the individual wheelers and dealers benefit and thrive in the bustle of many stalls, next to each other, but connected in multiple ways. to insist that these projects are 'individualistic' just because they have one name to them, rather than 25, seems unnecessary to me. greetings -a _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold